ok thanks for all the info, i didnt put the BGM on button 6 ill have to try that tues.

by the way they are using all pdku's in this 670 there old 424 got damaged in hurricane IKE and they had to replace most of it but the station card's were ok and they didnt want to buy new phones and station cards

i did put the PIDKT on ext 268 and the BGM works thru the spk. but when i put it back on the PIDKT and put my butt set on the 600 ohms side i didnt have anything

back to the main problem smile i made a box in the V/M and put the ext. to b #19 but no H for the blind trans. as i didnt think that would matter but maybe it does?? it doesnt ring when i dial int. #19 so i didnt think the V/M had to ring it either.

Also i did put the DID that i want to assign to the remote main. in prog. 309 to be the maintance modem but it doesnt work it just rings and keeps ringing

thanks in advance, Mike