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#12498 08/19/06 08:16 PM
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I had to take a course under the TSSA because I was doing cameras for gas bars and they covered this too.

We have regular bars that serve alcohol, some "oxygen" bars for people who want to breathe clean air in LA and some underground bars that serve up some coke, meth, and grass, but you've got people getting high on gas?

What? Nitrous Oxide is legal over the counter there? Is it a hot line to a local hospital or what?


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So, Bunnie, did you get any kind of an answer to my question from your course taken under the TSSA? Did this course address the question about dedicated lines for elevator phones? I sure could use some support if you got any written code information about this subject.

I really just need an answer to the elevator phone line question originally posted.


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Sorry about comming in on this so late but I was gone for the week-end. We do hotels all over the county and Hal is right check the local code, that is what you have to go by. It changes from time to time and we have to go and make changes to the elevator phones. We also have to get with the elevator company because many of the elevator phones are programmed to dial out when picked-up. Most locations in North Carolina require C.O. dial tone and cannot go through the PBX. What city and state are we talking about, we may have a hotel there and know what is allowed.

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Thanks, Larry. My original post was to help myself and Mike (MDaniel) with his question. I was hoping that there would be someone who knows of some national requirement that supersedes any local codes so we could just approach every elevator phone installation the same way. Looks like it's not that simple. Thank you all for your input.


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HA HA I ment 2 floor, 1 button elevators. good catch though.

You know for basement or retirement homes or wheel chair access.

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All of our sites have the elevator phone/call boxes going to either a central answering point provided by the elevator company or an after hours call center. This is in addition to the emergency button (that every kids loves to play with). All of them are on their own line not thru the site pbx. Mainly here because not all of our places are manned 24/7.


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Anyone called Otis Elevator or one of the other Elevator manufacturer's? Maybe they would know who to call?

Just a thought... smile


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Otis Elevator has been out of business for many years. smile

If you want to be safe just provide a dedicated POTS line.

Every locality has an elevator code and the larger municipalities will have their own elevator inspectors. Contact the building department for information. They will point you in the right direction.

Not knowing where the phone is supposed to call is a common problem and not even the elevator techs on a new installation will know the answer because they are all over. Whoever is in charge of elevator inspections will have the answer.

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Besides the local codes you also have the ADA requirments for elevator commuications
https://www.talkaphone.com/news_article.cfm?c=3&nav=4


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I'm not sure what the privately owned businesses use for their elevator's, but for the city owned buildings here in Tulsa, we use dedicated POTS lines. Most are AUL from Bell, SBC, AT&T...or whatever their calling themselves this week. We do have a few that have dialers installed on the line. Many of the elevator installers/service techs apparently don't have a clue what their doing as far as telephone.

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