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#155369 03/15/06 03:46 AM
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So I am just looking at options here.. even with this dead port aside, we are out of ports anyway and need some expansion, and have already added the max. 2 8-EXT cards. So our only options would be to replace it completely with something else, or to pair it with a second cabinet, right?

This system is as follows;
KX-TD1232, date code 93-12, ROM P101E60905A, purchased by us about Oct. 97.
based on the ROM I'd guess it's a -1 unit. Perhaps somebody can help confirm that? how can I positively identify what dash I have?

question: can a -1 be paired with a newer unit, ie a -7, and if so could the -7 be the master and would you gain the additional features of the higher rev unit on some or all ext's?

looking at this;
https://www.ablecomm.com/panphonsysve.html
the words "Increased processing speed, circuit board modifications" under the description for dash 2 concern me that there might be problems with compatibility between pre and post -2 units?

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#155370 03/15/06 04:29 AM
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Joe - the damaged port is not on one of the 2 add-on 8-EXT boards (ports 17-32) it is on one of the main system ports (#15). Would this not require replacement / repair of the entire main system board / chassis?
There are (2) 8 port station boards *inside* the cabinet. If you are handy with a phillips head screwdriver, you can replace them.

P101E is a "Dash -1". You will _absolutely_ require another Dash-1 if you want to expand.

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can the -1 be upgraded at all, new EPROM's or whatever? (doubt it based on what I've read, but worth asking..)

worst case, I *could* get two -7's (or dash-something-newer) to replace this one completely.. if I did this, would my existing 8-EXT cards be compatible?

a somewhat related question; the newer units support ISDN PRI service. Can the PRI card use BRI service as well? Can it use multiple BRI services? ie. if we had need for 6 lines equiv. that would be 3 BRI's, a PRI would be a waste. Could it be done?

Joe - are these 'internal' station board the same boards as the add-on '8-EXT' station boards?

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The -1 KX-TD version has the eproms soldered in. The unit would have to be sent in to the factory to be upgraded with a socket and the appropriate software.


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This unit has the ROMS socketed already.

It also has a number of 7433 phones on the system. the feature list I read said that the 7400 series wasn't supported until the -3. so I don't know what I have..

Is there any actual way to tell what is really in there right now?

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Sounds like your KSU has already been upgraded but the label on it wasn't changed. We will have to wait for Mr. Gemini to chime in on how to check the software version because I have forgotten and someone has my manuals out right now.


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if its got 7400's on it and they function
it's at least a -3

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I have a 7433 on my desk right here.. works fine..

but the ROMs are P101E60905A

wassup with that?!

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The 7400 series phones are designed to be on a Ver. 3 or higher.
The P101EA is a Ver1. You really can't do anything with it.
The chips should have sockets but the Ver 2 went to a 12 mhz CPU.
Dual cab. systems must be the same version.
You can upgrade to a TDA, (50 or 200) and keep all the phones. If you only need 1 more port for now I would do as Joe recommended and change the card.
You can send it in and get upgrade to a 6 but they would have to change everything.
All the cards are compatable.
Did you verify that port is not assigned as a voice mail port and did you put a different amp. cable on it and the check just that port?
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Our vendor, who sold us the 1232, sold us the 7433 phones as well. I would have hoped they would have sold us properly compatible hardware, but hey - I was never impressed with them, that's why I do all the work myself now!

So if I really want to know, I can check the speed of my processor - if its 12MHz, it must be a v2 or above board.

I was talking to CountyWide about the TDA systems today, they sound like our best bet so far.. the 1 fried port is just the latest blow, we have been maxed out on digital ports for quite a while, and have been adding SLT's instead (20 now) so we really do need a system upgrade of some kind anyway, not just the 1 port. We've just been putting if off because we've been talking about moving to a new building so that would be the time to get a new phone system too.

I checked the port is not a VM port. but I don't have another cable available to check that, besides none of that side of the BIX block was touched.

ty

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