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T isn't nice to bounce ideas off other engineers
!!A spare pri card in the MICS would be nice no suprises that way or having a t berd connected to the 0290 on the tde would tell you a lot before at least you would know what to expect before a potential cut !is mics have its own programming software or do you use procom or putty to admin it ?

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I am thinking now for them to play nice may need g-sig master to q-sig slave for 2 to really integrate

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https://searchunifiedcommunications.techtarget.com/definition/Q-signaling

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I don't know if I'm understanding your first sentence above about bouncing ideas - but I hope I haven't been too annoying! I'd probably be interested in paying for some of your time once I get a bit deeper into this. BTW, we don't have a T-berd (I wish) but I will probably purchase a used Nortel DTI card for testing before we cut. The MICS programming is all done through the phone.

The biggest issue will be that the Nortel won't act as QSIG slave (from what I've read). I'd be OK if it was a BCM or CS1K, but we're kind of screwed on the MICS front.

There still may be some work arounds, but I'll have to do some on-site testing. T1 may be an option in which case it looks like I'd need a different card for the TDE. The easiest solution would be to make the TDE emulate a Telco on the master side of PRI connection, but that's doubtful.

I can always fall back on using 8 or so analog COs/Exts to connect the two.


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Oh not annoying at all I meant thats why these forums are nice for getting info from other dealers ..
t1 cards for tie lines in each may simplify things but you lose a lot or functionality like caller id and possibly ext info from tde on mics side

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I cant see many problems with the tde, as it is very flexiable with call routing and other pbx options.
I know nothing about the nortel.How many extensions are on the nortel. using 8 co/ext is very limiting on internal/external calls from nortel system

I was looking at making the pri card as an extension and it just becomes one extension with 30 channels so you will need disa on the other side to route calls and on nortel

does it have a good lcr/ars so that if you dial 9 that it will pick up local trunk and then dial 9 again for line on panasonic.


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lcr or ars would have to also know what to with a
4 digit station number on the tde too right?

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yes, normaly ars/lcr uses lead numbers not lenght of number, so you will depend second inter-digit timer or # to say I am finished dialing.

the panasonic could use other system codes and tie table for calling extensions on the nortel system with lead number and number of digits

but only with co connections to the nortel, if using pri as extension on tde, you will have to give it 1 digit extension and have the nortel answer it with dial tone


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ah so dialing instructions on nortel could be 7+1001
or 101 providing that 7 is not a conflict in its dialing plan???

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wow i can't imagine building an ars table thru
the kepdad toner I am really surprised the mics has no terminal access ?? what is tree programing does that apply too the mics?

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Was just looking at programming guide for ics and
i am glad that i don't do mitel or nortel any more no wonder customers are moving to ip systems the gui we have on the top of the range is so much easier than slapping an overlay on the phone and tapping away

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