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I can't view either image... and the second one gives me an "access denied" error. Maybe try hosting it at imageshack or similar.

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[Linked Image from i3.photobucket.com]
that should work. Sorry apparently twitpic won't cut it, the images were there when I posted them however.

PS: Are you Seth Rogans twin?

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I have never seen that error, ever. I will check around and get back about it... and no, I'm not. Guess I need to update that ol pic smile That was from the 2006 OSU/M*ch*g*n game, during Heiney Gate.


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I can't wait for Toshiba to come to their senses and embed the stinkin web browser into the hardware. If a $29 Linksys router can do it, why are we forced to waste so much time installing emanager?

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Dwight,

I agree that is is limited in its design, especially since it will only run on a handful of Microsoft OS's (XP Pro or Vista Super Duper Number One Best Ever Gold Member Level). The simple fact that it won't load on 7 is odd, since 7 is designed with the exact same file structure as Vista.

Now I know we're taking this topic down a side road now, but...

I would like to see it designed to operate on any common OS. Maybe design it around Adobe AIR ~ that way Mac, Linux, Windows, etc. could use it despite their OS.

OR

Embed it in the hardware, as you said Dwight. They could have it run on a Linux platform. A subassembly card of some sort, which draws power from the phone system and runs an embedded version of Linux or XP Embedded (if it must). Heck all you would need is a .5V USB connector and a flash drive with DSLinux on it... or even design a custom Linux distro! The easiest part about that is... you would just have to VPN into it and work away, no matter what system you are running locally - since every OS that is in public use today has a VPN package for it. Not to mention the advantages (direct $ cost savings!) of GPL vs M$L.

AND furthermore...

Yes, again Dwight is correct about SO MUCH time installing eManager. Little tweaks in the previous releases, were a HUGE waste of time. I admit the current V5.20B05 is very stable, but initially between WinAdmin and the first 5-ish versions of eManager/Network eManager... I wasted no less than 5 full business days (yes 40 man hours) installing, troubleshooting and tweaking, just to have an update fix the problems a month after I was done with forensic analysis. Keep in mind, this is in an office with 3 total laptops and 1 desktop computer.

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Without mention was the need to uninstall a previous version and then reboot prior to installing the latest version of these programs. When it should have been as simple as running a update/upgrade to go to the latest which may not take the first time attempted.
...seems like a scripted program to actually do this would have been in order, one that when ran would uninstall the previous version and then reboot to install a newer version....you know like just about all other software on the market these days.

Been there, done that!

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I don't think the problem with porting eManager to other systems lies with the browser or the OS.
The browser is just a front-end to an SQL database.
The OS is just the host of the same SQL database.

The database system is Microsoft's SQL Server and it is one of their crown jewels. There is NO WAY (imo) that Microsoft will EVER port their SQL structures to any other host OS. They provide connectivity to SQL Server from/to other systems, yes. But that's how far it's gonna go.

You can question their decision to go with SQL Server, but I don't think there is anything to be gained by that. They know that business case better than any of us.

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Hmmm... On the other hand, I have read that Win 7 will ship with a version of XP in order to provide legacy support!!!
Maybe that will be the saviour?

Dave
I think you're refering to this:

Windows XP Mode

This is a preloaded/preconfigured licence-free XP SP3 environment for Windows 7. The requirements:

1. Relatively recent processor
2. Windows Virtual PC installed (free from Microsoft)
3. About 20GB of free space total.

There is a similar software for Vista to run on Windows 7.

The logical thing to do is for Toshiba to port eManager to SQL Server 2008 which runs on Win 7. I assume this will happen.

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Downloading now to try it, thanks for the info!


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I got a little farther. I downloaded Win7 from Technet last week when it hit. This is the RTM version. As previous posters ran into it errors out right away with the non-supported OS. You can get around this with compatibility mode on the program (right click run as Vista SP1) Another hangup for me is I'm running 64-bit Enterprise so the SQL Express 2005 errors also. So what I did is got the correct installer, put it in the SQL Install folder and renamed the installer SQLExpr32 or whatever it is called by default. I got everything installed and am now to the point of where the login screen is not showing up with an asp error. I've been messing around with the IIS settings trying to get it to go. It seemed each step had it's own challenge and now it's so close!! I quit for today just because it was driving me insane. Basically if you don't trick the installer to have it do your SQL install, it won't load up the right db information for you and I'm still not positive that is where my issue is stemming from.


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