atcomsystems.ca/forum Forums Wiring - Telecom Carriers - Trunks & Services Cabling Telephones Systems Wiring What's wrong with these plugs?

It all depends. If you are the man writing the checks, then chances are that you will be careful and line up the conductors properly with a standard plug. Now, if you are hiring people to do this, it might be worth it to invest in the feed-through plugs and crimpers since they probably don't have as much of an interest in the company's bottom line.

I use them exclusively. Saving time is saving money.

I'm the one that will be using them but anthing that makes the job better quality and save time is worth looking at.

We have a few guys in our company that use them. It has saved us a ton in bad ends. For some reason we have a few guys that just can't get it right (wires to short, mis-wired, etc.) With these they are at 100 percent correct and quite a bit faster.

funny.....when I first started in the business, I worked for a small AT&T dealer. The boss insisted on making Mod plug tails for all connections. I probably made a few hundred a week when I first started. Never thought I would use a simple skill so much. Now..I just use the plain AMP mod plugs. If you want to double check the plug before you crimp it, look at the end of the plug. You should see all 8 copper cable ends.

How are the AMP modular plugs different than most? The EZ crimper ad says it will work with most plugs but not the AMP plugs.

Amp plugs have a different spot where they crimp.

well, as of weco standard 568B with the tab down the top left one is backwards.

The major difference is that plugs for stranded wire have fangs that go into the center of the wire. Which obviously doesn't work for solid wire. When you try to use these plugs on solid wire, the contacts will not seat all the way down, which is obvious when you compare them to a factory-made cable. Assuming that you have a crimper tool that can actually apply enough force to seat them all the way down, then they'll probably just break right through the solid copper wire.

Plugs for solid wire have fangs that go AROUND the wire. In all of the ones I've ever seen, there are three fangs and two will be on one side of the wire when crimped, and the other fang, which is in the middle of the other two, will be on the other side of the wire.

Want to see a plug designed for solid wire? Go to Lowes or Home Depot and look at the RJ45/8P8C plugs that they sell in the datacom section made by Ideal. These plugs ARE designed for solid wire (even though the package, as I recall, doesn't specifically state so).

Want to see a plug designed for stranded wire? Go to CompUSA, Best Buy, or one of those stores and look for the crap being sold under the Belkin name.

Thanks for the info. I will check them out.