atcomsystems.ca/forum Forums Wiring - Telecom Carriers - Trunks & Services Cabling Telephones Systems Wiring Pair twist Clock or Counter Clock (wise)

Oh crap................please don't let Ed see this thread.

Because his response would take 30 minutes to download on a T-line. :rofl:

I'll keep it short and simple. It wouldn't make any difference and the splice would look like any other depending on how you did it.

We are looking at the capacitance between conductors and that doesn't change because the twist is one way or the other, only that it is the same number of twists per foot.

-Hal

Yep, it's the spacing of the twist,not the direction. I would hate to twist and soldier this stuff, my twisting rhythm would be all off. To Hals point it doesn't matter the direction of the twist.

Is this just a manufacturing defect?

Maybe CAT 6 or 7 will take care of it. Sorry put that in there for the IT folks.

Maybe it's beta cat 8 cable you guys are seeing!

Then again, it could have been a "Lefty" doing the twisting that day at the factory.

That was my thought Hal.

As I was reading this thread last night though I just started thinking how our discussions must look to someone outside the industry who just happened upon it online. :rofl:

The wise-cracks about left-handed tools (although there are some) reminded me of tech school in the USAF in the '60's when you really learned electronics and how that 'durned electronical stuff worked'.
One of the my instructors sent one of the more naive students (no, not me)down to the school secretary to get a fallopian (sp?) tube. And then went FLYING out the door to get him, cause that E2 YESSIR type was GONE! John C. (Not Garand)
Oh, shoot I forgot! For you folks born after about 1960, instead of transistors and IC's, 'electronical' equipment used to use 'tubes'. These were glass jars with pins and neat little metal plates and filaments, and pieces of screen, stuffed in the open end and then sealed. Operated on 100-500 volts, or more. John C. again

Sounds like the old GPO/BT trick of sending somebody down to the stores to get an A.C. battery, or a can of tartan paint! Or how about a non-inductive choke?

I still take great pleasure in working with the older tube gear ("valve" in Brit parlance). I still regularly use an amplifier my father built in the early 1960s with the ubiquitous twin 6V6 output tubes in push-pull.

Sometimes quite a lot more! 807's in a typical R.F. final come to mind.

Famous last words #2735: "Of course the top cap is the grid!"

Wait a minute...wouldn't the twist simply be perspective? I mean depending on what side of the cable came out of the box or reel first?

No, if it's a clockwise twist looking at one end of the wires, it will be clockwise looking from the opposite end too.

Heh..I just went and got a piece of cat5e...yep you are right.