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Hey I resemble that remark! :rofl: He hadn't even spec the rack that he was going to hang the fancy patch panels off of in the server room or plan for its proper grounding or wire management! I'm really glad I don't have that headache this time.

This is why I only resemble Bill's comment and am transitioning towards installer-hood -- where hopefully feckless job results will be nil.

I'll post again on this in a few weeks after the cable is in and I'll try to get before and after pictures.

Rowan

Rowan:

No offense, but your use of "Alot" may be the reason for BillFlippen's comment. I'm guessing that if that was the case, it was all in fun. There is no such word, yet it is very popular in the IT world.

Pictures are always great and appreciated as well. It would be great if you would share them with us.

Ed, don't forget the CG Speak term "Voyep" instead of "V-O-I-P" and bandwidth becomes "big honkin' pipe" as well as "the cloud" .....but I digress.....

You did right, Rowan.....don't get burned but yet you will learn as you go. :thumb:

Rowan:

You are welcome here even if at times you might get leaned on a little bit. It happens to us all, trust me. Most members here have a sense of humor, well some of them anyway.

Thanks for the offer of the pics. They will be a welcomed contribution.

Ok an overdue update.

No pictures yet, every time I've been down recently the camera wasn't in the car.

The cable was installed with something I've learned are called stirrups [for good reason] hung from threaded rod and clipped on the roof with some kind of friction clip that needed to be tugged on to set it.

The cable is in, it passed Certification, though looking at the result sheets, it was a close thing for some of the runs. The installer installed the 2post in the wrong place and didn't ground anything. Part of that was because a statement of work wasn't done, and the RFP was very light on details and not in my hands. I was out with a flu bug at when the rack was installed (no I wasn't oink'ing).

The rack should be moved next week, I will say I wasn't particularly happy with their tie down on the rack footer. They used philips concrete screws threaded through washers into the larger holes in the 2post foot. Even with a ladder all other installs I've seen had at least 3/8" threaded rod in the floor. Maybe every other system i've seen was over engineered. Because this wasn't specified, of course I get to live with it unless it fails.

It wont be done more because move in is in a week.

I had to do one CG'esq install that I wasn't particularly happy with. At one point the Demarc board wasn't in yet. Don't ask. anyway the phone company chose that time to bring the line we had to fight them to install from the other wiring closet. They left the end of a 12pair cable hanging down through a tile. the cable was strapped to grid wire, electrical hanging wire. and in one place the cooling system support. I pulled it back to where it entered the space. and ran it in the stirrups. Then because I couldn't find anyone local that would sell me 100' of 12 pair, but was able to find 25 pair. :shrug: I ended up needing 64' of that length. There is a careful splice using OEM scotch locks[correct pliers & matched colors] and then tied the ends together with ties so there was no stress on the splice. At the board I left 2' of slack in the ceiling, punched down the first 12 pairs, didn't shank the remainder and put a note of where the splice is. The only thing I'm not sure of is the 12pair was plenum, but the space isn't plenum required, so the 25pair is riser.

I think KLD asked at one point why not use wall mounted support. I'm not sure if I answered that before, but except the three labs, most of the walls end at the ceiling.

Grider, getting leaned on means that someone cares enough to be a wise @$$, If that is the cost of great help for free I can live with that. No one here is asking for a bucket of steam, 100' of water line, or any of the myriad mythical tools that the clueless are sent to find. I hope that wont change, though I'm not exactly gullible any more either.