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"I get hum when hooking a telephone across AB/AG."

You can't do this.. Intercom line cards are made for this. The trouble is simple. The A battery and A ground are two different applications. The Ag is the
ground in the crkt. Just as the B battery has a ground.

Grounds are not always common.

The AG completes the crkt. A batt B batt .

What you have is A battery then you have unfiltered B battery. Two separate crkts on the power supply. Don't confuse them. An don't make your grounds common when mixing them.


You need to understand that you are working with two different crkts. One is true DC and the other is supper imposed over a DC wave form.
I see what you are saying, but this KSU has no B battery - Just AB and AG; which the manual says can be used for voice. But you answered my question - the intercom card does the filtering.

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The funny part is that you don't hear any hum on talk battery suppiles unless it goes past 10000 ft.

Simple point. I will connect a ring down crkt with two car batteries.

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The KSU has B Batt. Take your but sett and listen for it.

If this is a KSU 551 or greater they all have B battery.

This is how we wire the buzzers. 18-24 b batt.

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DC does not run buzzers or bells.

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You can create noise an a DC output. This should be a wakeup call on bad crkts within the network.

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These older power supplies are unique.

Take your but set and connect one side to ground.

Then go across the power supply terminals to listen for the ac.

Now you have found the your ac crkt.

Sorry this is a lost art.

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The KSU has B Batt. Take your but sett and listen for it.

If this is a KSU 551 or greater they all have B battery.

This is how we wire the buzzers. 18-24 b batt.
Hmmm

If it has a B battery, then all the documentation I have is wrong. The power supply schematic shows one 24 vdc output, one 18 vac output, and one 10 vac output. The 24 volt output runs directly to the AB terminal. Also, nowhere in any of the 50 pages or so of documentation is a B battery ever mentioned. Buzzers are fed from the 10 or 18 vac outputs, the lamps are fed from the 10v output.

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Originally posted by Station Specialties:
These older power supplies are unique.

Take your but set and connect one side to ground.

Then go across the power supply terminals to listen for the ac.

Now you have found the your ac crkt.

Sorry this is a lost art.
My VOM can distinguish AC from DC; plus I have the schematic... no need to go searching.

Everything is as the documentation says it should be, with the exception that it says you can use AB for talk, and I get hum on it. The intercom card filters it out though, so the issue is resolved.

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Matt said, He has a volt meter and never told us about how many 1a2 key systems that he has worked on.

Hey, Matt. The next time I need a volt ohm meter to work on 1a2 I will call you to waste my time.

A but set is a meter without a digital or analog meter such as a simpson meter.

If you spent years listening to electricity/capacity you don't need a meter.

It's kind of looking at it with a scope. The only difference is that your ears become your eye's.

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SS, you missed it. He's using an ITT601 KSU and it has NO BB/BG. Doesn't need it, was a limited capability 1A2 KSU. Strictly CO lines and 10 Station IC. WE551's had more P/S and more flexibility, no question about it. Note that there were DC buzzers and bells used in the telco industry, early on. They became obsolete pretty quick, granted. Adjusting the contacts that made them work was probably the main reason, ya think! All that said, we are all having 1 h-ll of a good time watching Matt grow into the latest and greatest (And possibly the only)1A2 tech in the greater KC area. (Ahhh, the memories) smile frown John C. (Not Garand)


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