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#48748 01/28/07 01:42 PM
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I've recently found an Executone Encore CX-512 KSU. It has ports on the side of it like big printer ports. I'm not sure what I need to get in order to make this system work.

Thought it would work well for my collection agency I run. Perhaps it won't work at all. Either way, it was free!

Thanks!

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512 is a flat pack that supports 5 lines and 12 phones. The "big printer ports" are amphenol (aka champ) connectors for station blocks. Will only work with Encore CX phones. It may work, it may not. It is likely worth every penny you paid for it... If there's a specific question, we'd be glad to answer.
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How do the phones hook into that port? Do I need another box to hook the RJ11 plugs from the phone into?

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Jay:

Those ports that you refer to as "big printer ports" are telephone industry 25 pair connectors. These are frequently interchanged with "Centronics" printer cable connectors. These are similar in appearance, but could not possibly be further apart in performance.

You will need to obtain 25 pair "Amphenol-type" connectors, a tool to install them, suitable lengths of 25 pair cable for the application, then the necessary 66-, 110- or BIX type connecting blocks for the installation. You might be able to purchase cables with these 25-pair connectors pre-installed, but it's still going to be a lot of work. You will then need to purchase the other tools necessary to terminate these cables on the connecting blocks that you select for the project. None are interchangable, so you'll need to check with the local practices to determine which blocks and tools you will need to purchase.

This phone system will probably work for you, but it's not a system that you will be able put into action with a simple trip to Home Depot for parts. You will need to spend more in tooling and manuals that it will likely cost to hire someone to do it for you.

The Encore CX family is terribly antiquated, as in '80's era at best. I wouldn't spend a lot of money on putting it to use. You could probably buy a brand-new system with today's reliability and technology for what it would cost to install the CX, not to mention that you'd receive a warranty from the provider of the new equipment.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but in your business, you probably see people making financial mistakes all the time. I just think that if you try to use this system, you will be doing the same.


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eBay is a wonderful thing though. Haha. I found the cables. Now do I just need regular RJ11 ends to put on the raw end of the 25 pair cable?

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It is possible for you to install the system outside of the manufacturer's and the FCC's requirements by simply placing what you call "ends" on the 25 pair cable. We can't advise you to do this.

The 25 pair cables are supposed to be terminated upon industry-standard connecting blocks. Cross-connections are to be made to similar blocks where cables leading to the telephone stations are terminated. These blocks are briged together with cross-connect, or "jumper" wire.

That system uses a proprietary protocol for what you refer to as "RJ" connectors. You will need to be looking for something more comparable to an "RJ14" connector. An RJ11 is only two wires and the system you have requires four wires. This is something more in line with the architecture of an RJ12, 13 or 14 wiring pattern.

Polarity reversals on the station ports may cause fuses to blow on some of the older systems, so you will need to check to see if the vintge of system you have contains station fuses. It's an easy mistake to make with a simple miswire.

E-bay might have plenty of great deals out there, but only if they are ones that can truly be of use to you. Be careful; you may be spending more money than you could have saved. Just offering some friendly advice.


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Alright, sounds like I should just buy a new system. smile Thanks for the advice!

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Either way, it was free!
and worth every cent ,to laugh


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Just another side note, if you did decide to try to get it up and running, virtually all of the old phones that work on the system will have bad button pads.
Why would you spend time and money trying to get an Apple IIe up and running when you can get a new Mac?

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You terminate the 25 pair cable to a 66 block.

Each phone uses 2 pair.

You should be able to find someone to terminate for you, or by a 25 pair cable with 2 amp ends and a 66 block with amp connector on it.

See your local electrical supplier. (graybar,etc.)

Good Luck!!


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