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That is interesting.....................thanks Bill for the link.
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AT&T/Lucent/Avaya it's always been the same, they have constantly been in the red type company. They take it till its too bad and then sell it, roll it into something else. I was part of Expanets who acquired Lucent Gem division and they screwed up trying to adapt to Lucents ways. It will always be that way as long as you keep a centralized call center and a centralized warehouse and a decentralized sales staff. They're like the Entergize Bunny....somehow they just keep on going.
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3rd generation mentality sinks corporate America every time.....
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I wouldn't worry to much all you Avaya People. Like toshiba BOB said it was ATT 15 years ago, then Lucent 10 years they change to Avaya 5 years ago next year it will be God knows what.
(don't quote me on the years. You know what I mean)
It will always be around.
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Yeah, they'll be around forever, kinda like DIRT. It's interesting how something that is seldom state-of-the-art, let alone leading-edge, can keep on keeping on! Nothing like a legacy that goes back 3 generations to keep you in business! YES, I'M JEALOUS!  John C.
When I was young, I was Liberal. As I aged and wised up, I became Conservative. Now that I'm old, I have settled on Curmudgeon.
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Does anyone think they'll be an overt changes to the company and for the customer once this happens?
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Well, most of the time when these mergers and buyouts occur, it's with the promise that things won't change for the customers. This is usually the case when an existing company is doing things well and isn't in need of a new direction.
This is what was promised with the Vertical/Vodavi accquisition. Vodavi had fantastic management and support, but was lacking in R&D dollars, so Vertical filled that gap. Vodavi was entirely dependent upon the R&D being done by LG for much of this part of the business. This limited Vodavi's offerings. The promise of no changes was quickly rescinded by Vertical. There have been major changes. So far, they have been in a positive direction, but somewhat inconvenient for the dealers since doing business with Vodavi has changed dramatically.
When Vertical accquired Comdial, the company was in serious need of a forklift upgrade. Comdial needed additional money, management and expertise. This was probably what saved Comdial's neck.
Since Silver Lake Partners are more of a financial support arm, I don't think that Avaya customers will see much of a change. Their dealers will probably be most-effected through consolidation efforts. There will probably be some job losses and outsourcing so that the company can save money, but hopefully this won't impact the end users. I would imagine that some of Avaya's older product lines will be eliminated at a faster pace than Avaya had originally planned.
I would think that if Nortel or Cisco had purchased Avaya, the changes would have been much more widespread. The accquisition by Silver Lakes may end up being the best thing for Avaya's dealers AND end users.
Only time will tell.
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It sounds like the Partner ACS might be mothballed sooner than 2010. 
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