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Business service used to provide greater reliability, better quality and faster service in the event of outages. I obviously can't talk to everywhere, but at least in NYC it all seems to be the same -business or residential - everything is identical. It was already getting bad 20 years ago, now it's just gotten worse.


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Originally Posted by hbiss
Well, you are a business, have the account in the name of the business and have a business listing in the WHITE pages. Just how, short of canceling your service and getting a new account in your name with all new numbers do you think you can change your service to residential? The phone company ain't stupid so I doubt they will let you keep your existing business numbers if you decide to change. If they did that what would be the sense of charging businesses more? The bell has been rung and they know you are a business. You can't unring it. You should have set up the account originally in your name if you wanted resi rates. But then you deprive your business of a directory listing and I'm not just talking Yellow Pages. All your numbers will be listed under your name- or nothing if you want them unpublished.

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Yes. I am a business. I'm not looking to do anything that's odd, strange or not customarily done. But there are rules and there are rules. In Los Angeles people observe J-walking laws but in Manhattan they ignore them. I didn't know if people with home offices typically used residential lines or not. If they don't, then I don't have any problem following the rules. But I wanted to ask the question. I don't want to be the one person in Manhattan standing on the corner waiting for the light to change while everyone else passes me by.


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Doesn't matter if you run your business out of a refrigerator carton. Phone companies only see that you are a business so they charge you higher business rates.

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I didn't know if people with home offices typically used residential lines or not.

Though I have never seen it I'm willing to bet there are businesses who have figured ways to get resi service so yeah, plenty of home offices do. It's just in whatever you can get the phone company to believe. But once you have a business account set up you can't go back.

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My cousin ran a business from her home for ten years before finally expanding into a real office. She never paid business rates for her very good home phone number (XXX-5050). She got caught during a random check of good numbers by Bell Atlantic. In order to keep her number, she had to pay the difference between residential and business rates for two years, plus a hefty deposit.

She had no choice. They aren't stupid.

I try to tell people this with regard to using cell phone numbers for business use. If you read the fine print, most cell service providers' contracts forbid the use of their service plans for business use. Every day, I see bandit contractors driving around with cell phone numbers on their vehicles.

They obviously aren't doing a very good job of enforcing their own policies since this abuse is rampant around here.

Who in the heck would hire a contractor that doesn't have a verifiable business address and telephone number anyway? Talk about asking for it....


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But there are rules and there are rules. In Los Angeles people observe J-walking laws but in Manhattan they ignore them.

Isn't that the truth? Everyone out here jaywalks... in fact, the mayor of Philadelphia had some trouble with that a few years back. The newspapers out here were incredulous - who enforces jaywalking laws anyway? =)


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How is your main number listed and what name is the account under?

I currently have a business account which is in the name of the business (not me personally) and appears in the Yellow Pages under the business name (which is an S-corp.). Part of the reason why I thought moving to residential lines might not have a downside is that I can easily do without the Yellow Pages -- that no one reads anyway. So if that's all I give up, but I get cheaper rates, then why not?

Yellow Pages listing isn't just the phone book anymore. It is linked to their website which provides HUGE search exposure.

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(this outta insite a riot)

Port the main number to a SIP trunk and get a SIP capable phone system.

Rates will be better, and it doesnt matter where your system is...Home, CA, NY...

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I'm with Mongo Matt...that would be the best all around solution.


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they still have centrex?


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Time Warner probably has EMTA boxes. You tie that into your cable service you will probably save money and be able to tie that to your phone system without a lot of cost.

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