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dexman #629258 04/19/19 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dexman
Is this a commercial or residential service? Massachusetts is Verizon territory so at&t acts as a CLEC in these parts.
Residential, single family home, not so densely populated area (highland park, IL), so I was surprised
1 gig is available also, but pointless due to my firewall 150 mbit max throughput.

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Sounds like this particular service is at&t's version of Verizon FiOS.

I had FiOS installed at the house soon after Verizon began selling it in our town. Been a happy customer for years. Very few problems. When a problem does occur, Verizon has been good about getting it resolved in, what I would consider, a reasonable amount of time.

The weak spot is the battery backup system for the ONT. The battery needs to be replaced every-so-often. I've had to have the battery charging unit replaced multiple times over the years as they do eventually malfunction.

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Originally Posted by dexman
The weak spot is the battery backup system for the ONT. The battery needs to be replaced every-so-often. I've had to have the battery charging unit replaced multiple times over the years as they do eventually malfunction.


I read an article a while back - sorry I can't cite a reference offhand - that some phone company was repairing and re-certifying their copper infrastructure and just putting 48V battery on the pairs to power their fiber ONT's. Always on, no need to replace backup batteries, and no fixing blown out power supplies.

Makes sense. Every LEC just lashes their brand new fiber over the existing copper anyway, and it's already going to the same places. May as well use it for something.

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I can only wish that Verizon had included a power feed with fiber when installing FiOS.

But with Verizon looking to get away from land-based delivery in favor of an OTA approach, I have my doubts that it would make any effort to do something like that now.


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The back up power for new Fios installs in NYC consists of an optional battery box that holds 12 D cells. There is a manually operated switch on the box that is turned on in the event of a power failure.

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It never ceases to amaze me what Verizon installs for FiOS. It's like a different salesman comes by every few months and says "I can give you a really great deal on this if you buy 100,000 pieces." I've probably seen at least half a dozen different ONTs in the last three years. They went from this huge outdoor unit to one that is about the size of a 4 port switch that sits with the other IT crap.

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Originally Posted by ugly1
The back up power for new Fios installs in NYC consists of an optional battery box that holds 12 D cells. There is a manually operated switch on the box that is turned on in the event of a power failure.

I have the first ONT that Verizon used for FiOS installations. It is large and made by Tellabs. The battery backup uses a 12v sealed battery as opposed to the multi D cell.

RCN salespeople stop by the house once in a while looking for us to switch. They claim that RCN now has their own fiber in our area. A quick look at the utility poles along the street doesn't quite support that statement.


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Originally Posted by dexman
But with Verizon looking to get away from land-based delivery in favor of an OTA approach, I have my doubts that it would make any effort to do something like that now.

They just don't want anything to do with being a phone company, do they?

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It looks like they want to a content provider as opposed to a communications company (outside of mobile services). We shall see how this all shakes out. Last week a Verizon trunk spent two days in the hole in front of the Church. Something was either being pulled through conduit, or preparations were being made for a pull. I didn't want to pester the workers, so I minded my Ps & Qs.


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Everybody wants to be a "Content Provider" but it seems like no one has any interest in providing or maintaining the infrastructure to get that content from one place to another. Everybody is all excited about this new craze called 5G.... Go ahead, drink that kool-aid right up. Even my father is ranting about it... First off, it'll be years before that tech makes it to podunk New Hampshire, then what? Yippie, its fast internet, that's what EVERYBODY wants, right? Except it's still going to be considered cellular data and all the stupid data caps and pricing will still exist. Great, I'll have 10 gig speeds (or some over-hyped claim). It just means I can hit my 4 gig cap on my phone that much faster. But, my father says, it's an alternative to Comcast for the internet in the house.... Riiiiight.... With what sort of per gigabyte charge and what sort of data cap? They're going to want to pay for this new tech roll out somehow... We use better than 400 gigabytes (yes, bytes, not bits) of data over our internet connection every month in my house. There's no way that will be cheaper over some new-fangled network run by the greedy cell carriers. Not to mention, the range on this 5G is next to nothing so there's going to have to be nodes/tranceivers/repeaters on every third utility pole? You can't tell me there won't be fiber or something connecting them all back to some head end. Why not just take the same damned fiber and RUN IT TO MY HOUSE. I mean, seriously, how fast does data need to be on a handheld device. I find 4G LTE to be plenty fast enough for anything I do with a cell phone.

Since I'm on my little rant, I'll relate some observations I made when driving into Somerville, MA the other day. I was killing time waiting for a friend to come out of his apartment, so I was idly looking at the utility poles and the general decrepitude of inner city utility wiring and a thought occurred. You would never see this level of ineptitude in New Hampshire. I wish I had a picture of the rats nest of wires that were hanging in front of my friend's building. That's Verizon territory. They just do not care, and the company doesn't want their employees to care. You drive into New Hampshire and look at the condition of the outside plant compared to Massachusetts and it's night and day. Yeah, it's not perfect, but it doesn't scream IDGAF like I saw down there. CC has gotten pretty much all caught up on attachment moves, the splice cases have been fixed and sealed meaning no more trash bags taped over them, and the general workmanship is just better. Yeah, I gripe that there's no fiber where I am, but I'm still grateful to have a company in town that seems to give a hoot about their subscribers and their equipment.

Verizon should take notes.

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