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As of late, I've been trying to put my YouTube channel to some use. I've been uploading videos of me playing hymns on my church's pipe organ.

I'm starting to run into instances where once the videos have been uploaded, YouTube notes that some hymns have Copyright claims against them and that I'm not allowed to monetize the video (which I would never attempt as my homemade videos never attract any substantive views).

Curiously, when I check the hymns....they are showing that they are in Public Domain, and, I'm having to contest the Copyrights to get the "holder" to release them. What a pain. bash

But, this brings up an interesting question. If these hymns are in Public Domain, can they used in conjunction with MOH players? ponder


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Some of the Churchs we do business with are having issues with Facebook live and some of their hymns. I don't think that they have gotten any cease and desist letters, but there have been some sort of issues based not only on the hymn but on the specific arraignment.


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Our church paid approximately $300 for an annual license (to two places) for the hymns. We will live stream even if we get back in the sanctuary. One was ccli.com and I don't remember the other one. I didn't write it down at our last council meeting.

If you get to the ccli website, it may tell you the other.

Edit: for the record, the other service is ccs Worshipcast. WORSHIP

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I'm curious on this topic as well. I have been recording our weekly worship services and uploading them to YouTube so that our home bound and vulnerable members who don't feel comfortable attending in person can watch. Once in awhile, I too will get a notice about possible copyright infringement due to hymns that are recorded or perhaps a religious symbol that may be caught on video.

One of our leaders recommend that we just go to recording the weekly sermon and leave it at that. Going forward, do we need the CCLI or similar licenses if we wanted to post the entire service? I've clicked around at many other services, and and don't see many at all posting any type of licensing.

Thoughts?

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I ended up "contesting" the two copyright flags that were raised by my postings. Both of the flags were dismissed because the hymns are in public domain.

My church does have a CCLI license to cover hymns & songs that have copyrights. At first the license was just to allow the words of hymns to be included in the bulletins, but, that was going to be revisited to make sure we're covered for online broadcasting.

Our plan is to continue Zoom broadcasts after we return to the building in October (hopefully).

After many years of subsisting with Verizon DSL....7M down 768K up....Comcast stepped up and agreed to service our building (although not in the way I would have preferred) so we'll have high speed Internet access ready by then. I am keeping our three telephone lines with Verizon though. We've had no dial tone issues in a very long time due to the cables between the C.O. and the church are all underground.


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Good information.
Haven't tried the Zoom route, as we are still using YouTube. Takes me awhile to format and put the file together, but I take the recording to the office and upload it there on a 1 gig connection. Uploading is the easy part smile

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I selected 200 down x 20 up for the church.

30 up is as high as Comcast goes when coupled with 1T download speed (and a rather hefty price tag to go along with it).

Last week Comcast dropped off a 500' reel of RG6 coax. I used about 125' (service loop at the outside end) to pull it through existing 3/4" conduit between a hole at the back of the building and a 4" box high up on a wall outside the phone closet.

Now we wait for Comcast to do its thing.


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So your Suburban Boston church got high speed broadband after all??? Good on you.

Our Spectrum ended up at about $120/month for 200x10 and one phone line. The rest of the lines is VoIP.

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I came to the conclusion that the utilities were not going to service the building the preferred way...trench the west property line like New England Telephone did back in the 40s when it ran 50 pair into the building.

Interestingly enough, the town contacted RCN about services to the neighboring building...which will be either renovated or demo'ed and rebuilt.

RCN claims that the cost to install facilities under the street to the church, neighboring building and a CVS pharmacy to be around $12k. The rep claims that RCN cannot justify the cost and would need 3rd party funding to offset the expense.

I think it is funny how communication companies can spend millions and millions on acquiring other companies, but, it cannot justify spending what amounts to a rounding error to get services to un/underserved locations.


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