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I'm hoping to get a Partner ACS for an insurance agency within the next few months, and I would like to use the existing 2-pair wiring already in place from the old Vodavi. On the station side, this 2 pair wiring terminates into an RJ-14 jack (same size as RJ-11 with 2 pairs??, NOT RJ-45 with 8 pairs), and on the KSU side, the 16 stations are divided up evenly into two Amphenol connectors that connect directly to the old Vodavi. I really don't want to take off the Amphenol connectors and attach modular plugs to all 16 extentions. I saw this thing called a "Hydra" at this link: https://www.phonegeeks.com/hydra.html , and I was wondering if I could connect that to the exsisting Amphenol (I realize I may need gender changers) and plug the modular ends of the Hydra directly into the ACS. However, the Amphenols only have 8 stations wired to each, and the Hydra terminates the Amphenol into 12 2-pair modular plugs. Should I just ignore the last 4 plugs on each Hydra and plug the first 8 modulars of each Hydra into the ACS in numerical order of extensions? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Please email me if you need anything clarified as to our current wiring setup.

Thanks again!
Matthew

$112.00........HOLY MOLY...........

I'll stay home all day and make em if I could sell them for that price....

Just cut down 2 pair cables and terminate onto 14c plugs.....wont take long....

If you want an octopus cable, they are a whole lot cheaper on www.pimfg.com around 25 bucks.
Bill

Are you saying that the individual I/W's from the jacks go directly into the amphenols on the Vodavi? If so, that's a pretty unconvential way to do it.

If the I/W's are terminated on 66-blocks, the amplenol ended 25-pair cables from the Vodavi are terminated on other 66-blocks, and there is 2-pair jumper wire between the blocks, (which is the "normal" way to do it), you just need 4 conductor SOLID wire cords. Plug into the station port on the Partner, route to the block, remove the jacket and punch down the 4 conductors.

Sandman sell them, but since his catalog isn't really "online" but a bunch of .pdf's I couldn't find a link for you.

Or we use cables made by Hubbell, I can get you a part number and/or comcode if you want.

Thanks for the info so far. I'm going to take a picture of our setup this afternoon, because I'm not really sure ;-). I'll take a picture of the 66 punch down block which routes to the amphenol connectors. Thanks again!

- Matthew

I thought he was saying he wanted to unplug the amp connector from the Vodavi and plug the octopus cable into the amp which would than plug into the Partner. The "arm" ends of the octopus cable come in 4pin, 6pin, and 8pin. I've never used one but don't know why it wouldn't work if that's how you wanted to go. He would probably need to re punch his stations to match the pairs in the octopus cable that plug into the Partner.
Bill

Bill,

Thats exactly what I want to do. How many pairs does the Partner need from the KSU to the sets? The Vodavi used 2 pair wiring from the KSU to the sets. If I get an octopus that has 8 modular plugs with 4 conductors (2 pairs each), why would I need to re-punch?

Thanks
Matthew

The partner uses 2 pair also.

Just depends where the pairs fall out on the Vodavi vs the Partner. Your octopus cable if you get 4pin is going to go right down the row, pair one and two 1st station right down the list, I don't know if your stations on the 25pr cable on your Vodavi are punched down this way, could only look to see.
Bill

IF I recall corretly, the Vodavi 616 terminated stations on two blocks. Both with 8 stations each. So, yes, you should be able to just ignore the last 4 on each Hydra cable.

Having said that, I agree with the others. Make your own connectors and pocket the rest.