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Posted By: MooreTel Digital Cable TV - 10/08/13 09:13 PM
The client has a motel that presently has analogue cable TV.

When he called the company to have 2 extra telephone lines, they stated that within a year they're going to have to change to a digital TV system anyways, so the company wants to push him into converting the whole motel now.

They of course don't do this for free. The new digital decoders will cost him $3.00 per room. He only wants 3 decoders (2 for his residence and 1 for his son's apartment).

The regular rooms don't need to have all the channels, just the basic ones.

I know that my mother has 1 digital decoder and gets all the channels that she wants in the living room, but has 2 other TV's that don't have the decoder and that suits her fine.

Is there a way to push the analogue signal to his 12 remaining rooms?
Posted By: hbiss Re: Digital Cable TV - 10/09/13 01:12 AM
Tell Mr. Patel it's time to replace those 15 year old TVs with new ones. They have tuners that are capable of handling the digital signals. cry2

-Hal
Posted By: MnDave Re: Digital Cable TV - 10/09/13 03:17 AM
I only subscribe to basic cable so I use my HD TV tuners. They also get the unlisted QAM channels!

I also have one basic Comcast converter that was provided at no cost for my last analog TV. But that converter is the channel changer and that means the only analog signal you could extend would be the one that the converter is tuned to.
Posted By: ampleworks Re: Digital Cable TV - 10/10/13 10:45 PM
If $45 per month is going to break Mr. Patel, he surely has many more things to worry about!

Like Hal said, time to upgrade those TVs. I'm sure if he went to a place that has commission-based salesmen, he could surely cut a deal for 15 units.

Perhaps the other problem he will face is if his existing coax is of satisfactory quality or RG59.
Posted By: hbiss Re: Digital Cable TV - 10/11/13 12:15 AM
There are ways to take say a dozen popular channels off the cable, convert them onto analog channels 2 through 12 and put them on the existing system. But that's going to cost quite a bit and you know how Mr Patel is. Probably cheaper to buy new TVs. I also don't think much of putting set top boxes in each room. Kinda tough to nail down. I don't know what to say about the existing wiring without seeing it and the system. I'm leaning towards thinking that if it is working now it should be fine since digital is pretty forgiving.

-Hal
Posted By: Rcaman Re: Digital Cable TV - 10/11/13 12:13 PM
Has the idea of satellite TV been entertained? One antenna and the proper equipment, he can offer the same service he has now without a STB at each TV. His existing coax will work fine. The upfront cost will be about the same as with the cable company, but his monthly fee will be less. We have several hotels/motels around here that have this kind of arrangement and the reason they went this way was to be able to use in place equipment and just add head equipment.

Rcaman
Posted By: Mercenary Roadie Re: Digital Cable TV - 10/11/13 05:36 PM
This is easy and is done by many hotel chains.

You use the same set-up as you would if you were installing Directv or Dish, but instead of the Sat receivers you use digital to analog converters with each set to a different channel that you want to offer. Good part of this method is use can still use old RG-59 cabling from the equipment closet to each room. Down side is it's as expensive as adding Sat, but without the roof dish.
Posted By: jamesandrews Re: Digital Cable TV - 10/11/13 08:35 PM
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Posted By: hbiss Re: Digital Cable TV - 10/11/13 09:44 PM
Originally Posted by Mercenary Roadie
This is easy and is done by many hotel chains.

That is what I was describing but if I know Mr. Patel he isn't looking to part with a dime.

Originally Posted by jamesandrews
To know about the latest in antenna technology checkout https://sydneyantennas.com.au/

Yeah well maybe the latest for you. I had a company like that back in the 80s. Then cable took over and then the government outlawed using the airwaves for TV so no more antennas. You are supposed to pay the cable and sat companies who in turn donate to the politician's campaign funds. Ain't America wonderful?

-Hal
Posted By: rcsinfo Re: Digital Cable TV - 10/15/13 06:48 PM
The problem with a headend style system is that it needs one tuner per channel. These work great when you have hundreds of rooms, but for a 12 room motel I can't possibly see a cost justification. You would end up using more boxes to build your headend than if you just put in one box per room.

So yes, you can send analog to the rooms, but it is going to cost a lot more than just paying the cable company $36 per month.
Posted By: hbiss Re: Digital Cable TV - 10/15/13 09:05 PM
I'll let you in on a little secret but the cable company has to provide it. This thing here.

-Hal
Posted By: MooreTel Re: Digital Cable TV - 10/15/13 11:10 PM
I had a "Sit-Down" with him today and explained his options. It's now up to him.
Posted By: Mercenary Roadie Re: Digital Cable TV - 10/16/13 06:02 AM
The cable company does not have to supply them. I have been using similar unit for years.

Anybody can add a channel to their in house system by just filtering out the unwanted channel and then modulating the new source and combining it to the existing signal.
Posted By: hbiss Re: Digital Cable TV - 10/16/13 05:13 PM
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The cable company does not have to supply them. I have been using similar unit for years.

They do if anything is encripted or a cable card is needed. Those units are a little more sophisticated than what you are talking about. That one will convert up to 36 channels in 1 rack space.

What equipment are you talking about?

-Hal
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