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Posted By: teldata1 Waterproof Jack in Refridgerator - 10/18/19 10:42 AM
I am looking for suggestions for installing some sort of waterproof jack

my customer has multiple refrigerator with one phone in each of them occasionally they will hose these down

They remove the phones but the jack will be exposed and become unusable


The cable is coming down the wall exposed


I was looking at Home depot they have a lot of options but I didn't see anything that I thought would work

just wondering if anyone else has any Ideas


Thanks


JD
Posted By: metelcom Re: Waterproof Jack in Refridgerator - 10/18/19 11:09 AM
For this type of situation I always used an outdoor receptacle box and just install the phone jack instead of AC outlet.
Posted By: Carl Navarro Re: Waterproof Jack in Refridgerator - 10/18/19 01:47 PM
Suttle's trade name is Corroshield.

Testing...1,2,3 See post below for Home Depot reference.

Here's my attempt at Corroshield Corro
Like Carl said, check out: Home Depot

in not so many words...

Carl, I replied to your request. Now I see why you asked!
Posted By: gelehu Re: Waterproof Jack in Refridgerator - 10/18/19 03:10 PM
No solutions, just memories.We were doing the Montauk Yacht Club back in the 80s and were to put modular jacks on the pier pylons.Had heavy duty aluminum mounts with spring loaded doors that were supposed to be impervious to anything, sea gull crap ate them up in 6 months.Probably not a problem for your application.Seems like Merrits solution would be the simplest and most straightforward.
Posted By: hbiss Re: Waterproof Jack in Refridgerator - 10/18/19 05:57 PM
Originally Posted by metelcom
For this type of situation I always used an outdoor receptacle box and just install the phone jack instead of AC outlet.

Yup,that's the way it's done.

-Hal
Posted By: Arthur P. Bloom Re: Waterproof Jack in Refridgerator - 10/18/19 06:33 PM
Why not suggest a weatherproof phone (aka "police call box") installed permanently in each fridge. WE model 526 or equivalent. They appear occasionally on Ebay. You can also get just the housing and put a wall jack in each one, then carry around a 2554 to be plugged in when needed.
Originally Posted by Arthur P. Bloom
Why not suggest a weatherproof phone (aka "police call box") installed permanently in each fridge.
You mean open the door AND lift the receiver? That's kind of complicated Arthur.
Posted By: Arthur P. Bloom Re: Waterproof Jack in Refridgerator - 10/18/19 08:11 PM
Charge the customer for training.
Posted By: Silversam Re: Waterproof Jack in Refridgerator - 10/20/19 02:36 PM
Gelehu -

I also worked on the Montauk Yacht Club (for UCS) back in the late '70s. We installed brass marine jacks with a twist-lock connector - as I recall.

I was out there in the dead of winter. The jacks were mounted on the pilings at every slip. They had installed the pilings upside down (Bigger side up). When the inlet froze it pulled the pilings out of the water. We had to replace the jacks on the new pilings they were putting in, We worked on a rowboat that we rowed under the docks (at low tide!) finding the cables grappling them to the surface and letting them dry out a little before we reinstalled them. In those days there was nothing doing out there in the winter - it was dead. The only place open in Montauk was a Pizza Parlor.

Teldata -

I installed PA & Intercom at national Cold Storage in Manhattan in the early '70s (late '60s?). Anyway - depending how cold the temperature gets in there you could have problems with exposed cable (we had cable that shattered!). I would suggest installing the exposed cable in aluminum conduit and the jacks in an outdoor electrical box with a hinged plastic cover that can close over a jack when the phone (with a cord coming off it) is removed.

Sam
Posted By: Professor Shadow Re: Waterproof Jack in Refrigerator - 10/20/19 03:51 PM
In the environment you state EMT shouldn't be necessary...of course AHJ had the final say so. I'd use EMT just to protect the cable from user abuse!

For example, BERK-TEK's LANmark-350, Category 5e+, Plenum UTP Cable spec sheet shows that it is rated for -20º c - 60º c (-4º f - 140º f)
[Spec Sheet]

You can always check on the manufactures spec sheet for the brand and type of cable you are using.

Then again this has nothing to do with your OP. Just use outdoor rated parts and you shouldn't have any issue.
Posted By: gelehu Re: Waterproof Jack in Refridgerator - 10/20/19 04:06 PM
You had a rowboat? We had a piece of plywood with 2 Styrofoam bales tied to the bottom when we pulled the cable. I guess it was in the 70s. We would float merrily along under the docks trying to attach cable til one of the big yachts would cruise through and the wake would bounce us up against the bottom like a cork, lost multiple tools to the briney deep trying to hold on. What a job, switch room was below sea level and when tide was up there would be 2 feet of water. Another memory, pulled our console and Mr/MW cables (100prs) and coiled in corner of switch room, someone thought they would make a nice toilet and did a #2 in/on them. Pizza parlor was downtown as I recall. We were there in prime time couldnt find a place to stay except a night or two at different places. Remember were there when JAWS was released. Ah, those were the days.
My water experience...

Installing one data drop from the main building to the barge 150' away with no existing path. Bucket truck for aerial.

Full PPE: hard hat, safety gloves, safety glasses, boots and of course because it was near water a life jacket. Of course I had to back the truck down the hill and across the pier.

So I'm tied-off to the bucket and wondering what good the life jacket is to me in the 95° summer sun? 👷☀️

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Posted By: dexman Re: Waterproof Jack in Refridgerator - 10/20/19 11:53 PM
That water doesn't look very deep.
Posted By: Silversam Re: Waterproof Jack in Refridgerator - 10/21/19 12:43 AM
They offered us the float and I told them it was unsafe and wouldn't use it. They bitched and moaned, but when I got into my car to leave and drive back to Brooklyn they came up with the rowboat.

I remember the switchroom. A Hitachi Xbar, no? With amphenols connecting the OSP cables to the MDF. If the switch went into general lockup because of shorts on the underwater cables the maintenance guy used to unplug them to clear the problems.

Dear Lord, those were the days!

I remember Dave Dragan as my guy down in Roanoke. What a nice fellow. I hope he's OK and doing well.

Sam
Originally Posted by dexman
That water doesn't look very deep.
Deep enough to float a barge; deep enough to drown.
Posted By: gelehu Re: Waterproof Jack in Refridgerator - 10/21/19 03:27 PM
I remember Dave Dragan as my guy down in Roanoke. What a nice fellow. I hope he's OK and doing well.

Sam
Yep, Dave was my boss at UCS for years. Last I heard, he was living in West Va., his brother had a white water rafting outfit up there and I think Dave was involved in that. Had lunch with him maybe 20 years ago and dont think I've seen him since. We kinda keep track of all the old timers so I think I would have heard if he weren't doing well. Few people would believe what the fledgling days of interconnect was like unless they went through it.
Posted By: Silversam Re: Waterproof Jack in Refridgerator - 10/23/19 03:50 AM
Well if you hear anything about him, send my best.

Those were the glory days.

And Dean, forget about floating a raft, they had 70' yachts floating at those piers! But yes, you're right, You can drown in 6" of water. I wasn't going on that float with the depths they had there.

Sam
Posted By: gelehu Re: Waterproof Jack in Refridgerator - 10/23/19 03:26 PM
Sam, I could probably dig up an email if you were interested.
Posted By: Silversam Re: Waterproof Jack in Refridgerator - 10/26/19 02:32 PM
Gelehu -

Actually, I would be. PM me if you can find one.

Sam
Posted By: gelehu Re: Waterproof Jack in Refridgerator - 10/26/19 03:26 PM
Ill contact my UCS historian and see what I can find out.
Posted By: Silversam Re: Waterproof Jack in Refridgerator - 10/26/19 07:08 PM
Thanks!

Sam
Posted By: gelehu Re: Waterproof Jack in Refridgerator - 10/27/19 04:45 PM
Hey Sam, Sent you a PM with info for Dragan.Think it worked but not sure. Let me know if you dont get it
Posted By: Silversam Re: Waterproof Jack in Refridgerator - 10/28/19 12:23 AM
Got it! Thanks!

Sam
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