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Posted By: Orac A few definitions needed - 12/22/04 03:01 PM
I used the "search" feature, but couldn't find anything relating to this, so hopefully I'm not asking the most FAedQ in the FAQ:

After logging into the Eclipse 2.0.0 system, there's a banner at the top stating:
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Options: DCM3 LCR VMS 540 CA1 AACD500 Att CID TIME</font>

I know that LCR is "Least-Cost Routing", VMS is "Voicemail System", and Att must refer to the Auto Attendant, but the rest is somewhat mystifying to me. For example, it says "540" at the top but the system has three cabinets and seems to support more than 540 ports (but fewer than 648), so that number is a bit confusing. I surmise CID means that a caller ID module is installed (but I'm not sure we subscribe to CID from the phone company.) The remaining acronyms are proving mysterious.

Anyone have a good glossary to help me define these?




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Posted By: pvj Re: A few definitions needed - 12/22/04 05:46 PM
Well you are right.
VMS= Voice mail integration
LCR=Least cost routing
540 =number of ports that can be active
CA1=Call accounting 1 module activated
AACD500 =I believe a 500 agent Advanced acd
CID=caller id
Time=Time can be set with a dial code
DCM3= Lsi version of Data Control Module is installed
Att=Auto attendant activated
Posted By: nonameyet Re: A few definitions needed - 12/22/04 07:12 PM
Caller ID option, still need additional Hardware eighter Caller ID Interface and a spare rs232 port(which could be had from that DCM card(with a Digitial/Display phone OR a DDI. OR, 4X8Combo card for the later software that supported Caller ID.
Posted By: pvj Re: A few definitions needed - 12/22/04 09:03 PM
I've been out of the Executone "loop" for a while but didn't they come up with a 4x8 card that had the caller id built into the trunk ports?
Posted By: JJ Re: A few definitions needed - 12/23/04 06:09 AM
They two versions of the 4x8 card. One with caller ID for the 84 system and one without caller id for the 84.

They also made a caler id 4x8 card for the 228 system but not sure if it had caller id, would have to research my documents.
Posted By: Orac Re: A few definitions needed - 12/23/04 06:47 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by pvj:
Well you are right.
540 =number of ports that can be active
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Interesting... Thanks for the confirmation.

I thought it said 540 before I added another station card. Taking the sum of the REC, T1, STN, and SLI cards and multiplying by 12 gave me 528 installed ports. Does mean I can add only one more 12-port card?



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Posted By: nonameyet Re: A few definitions needed - 12/23/04 01:11 PM
540= 45 card slots

My guess is you have 3 cabinets?

That " Option " can be changed, but You need to call Inter-Tel, they took over all the executone accounts(Unless, You are dealing with some body else, that has access to adding and changing options)

Depending upon the configuration of cards(do You have any T-1 cards?) there are ways to ' trick ' the system to gain a slot or two, again, You will need someone to Reprogram the slots for the different card types. You CAN'T just move them around.
Posted By: Orac Re: A few definitions needed - 12/23/04 03:51 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by nonameyet:
540= 45 card slots

My guess is you have 3 cabinets?

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Three cabinets, but not all the slots are filled, and not every card has every position filled.

Cabinet 1 contains:
1 CNF
3xT1 cards (total 6 slots)
3x GS cards (which the guy before me documented as CO cards, I haven't looked at their part # yet to be exactly sure)
6x Stn
1 Rec
1 Sli
1 DID

Cabinet 2:
1x CNF
1 Rec
9x Stn
7x GS
1 empty slot

Cabinet 3:
1 CNF
1 Rec
8x Stn
8 empty slots.

For only having 540 ports available, it's odd seeing that I have just installed a set of DVAs, with the last of them on Stn 48, position 12-- or port #576... I count about 40 of the ports not being in use by glancing over my excel sheet, so it's about 536 ports in use... Scary thought if I'm that close to maxing out the phone system...
Posted By: nonameyet Re: A few definitions needed - 12/23/04 07:03 PM
You might be living on borrowed Time!!

the 540 means 19 slots times 12 = 228(1 cab)it doesn't matter if You are using the "port"
or not a port can be anything, Digitial station, Analog station, DTMF Receiver, Trunk , Or the CNF which are used for Conference's (they might do something else as well) an empty slot is also taking up part of the 540!


540/12= 45 slots = 2 full cab's and 7 slots in the 3rd cab... You say You have 10 cards installed in the 3rd cabinet, do the card Identifers show up on the left hand side of the ' F ' screen?
Posted By: Orac Re: A few definitions needed - 12/23/04 07:40 PM
Yes, that third cabinet shows:
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System Configuration „  A = Auto Config?  C = Clear Port          Cabinet 3 of 3
„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„£ R = Reset Port   F = Default Config? .      Page  1 of 2
card  [P]AD POR[T] +  01   02   03   04   05   06   07   08   09   10   11   12
„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„¦„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ„Ÿ
 39  CNF       457 „ 
 40  Rec       469 „  
 41  Stn       481 „  
 42  Stn       493 „   
 43  Stn       505 „   
 44  Stn       517 „  
 45  Stn       529 „  
 46  Stn       541 „  
 47  Stn       553 „  
 48  Stn       565 „  
 49  ---       577 „ 
 50  ---       589 „ 
 51  ---       601 „ 
 52  ---       613 „ 
 53  ---       625 „ 
 54  ---       637 „ 
 55  ---       649 „ 
 56  ---       661 „ 
 57  ---       673 „ 
(extensions removed from this for no good reason, really)

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Posted By: Orac Re: A few definitions needed - 12/28/04 12:42 PM
It turns out the CNF cards don't count towards ports-- so I have 540 ports in the system.

I filled in empty spaces with "dummy" extensions, and even had to create two dummy lines on GS cards (which then I busied out with Line Maintenance), but for now there's no worry that I'm "over" capacity.... I might move card 48 into slot 32, to see if a card will work there. Right now, Stn 48 has 12 DVAs on it, so I'll probably move it late at night.
Posted By: nonameyet Re: A few definitions needed - 12/28/04 07:52 PM
ok, to really check, try putting a card into slot 49 and see if you ' see ' the card identifer..

My Guess is No. over 540 ports.
Posted By: Orac Re: A few definitions needed - 12/29/04 06:22 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by nonameyet:
ok, to really check, try putting a card into slot 49 and see if you ' see ' the card identifer..

My Guess is No. over 540 ports. </font>
I noticed even before I installed STN 48 that the lowest I could get the cursor to move on the F screen was that slot when on cabinet 3-- it would wrap back up to the CNF card when I attempted to cursor down to 49.

Also, there are 9 empty slots in Cabinet 3-- 12*9=108; 648-108=540. I now know with absolute certainty that I have 540 ports.
Posted By: nonameyet Re: A few definitions needed - 12/29/04 03:39 PM
That would be correct, BUT, You can get the 540 option upgraded to 648 to use the rest of the cabinet, contact your phone vendor...
Posted By: Orac Re: A few definitions needed - 12/29/04 06:02 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by nonameyet:
That would be correct, BUT, You can get the 540 option upgraded to 648 to use the rest of the cabinet, contact your phone vendor...</font>

Yes, I nearly purchased it Monday until it became clear that we hadn't exceeded the capacity. There's no immediate need for that upgrade now-- but I know who to call to get it.

But, before I do much more to it, I'm running the System Self Test to see how healthy it thinks it is....
Posted By: nonameyet Re: A few definitions needed - 12/29/04 07:32 PM
The IDS is/was a nice system, BUT, the system self-test wasn't too reliable.
Posted By: Orac Re: A few definitions needed - 12/30/04 02:00 AM
Yeah, I'm not sure how much I can trust it... The manual says that DID cards will fail (which it does), but it doesn't say whether CNF cards will also fail-- I get a failure at 2 4 6 8 10 and 12 on all three CNF cards. Also, one of the T1 cards fails on all 24 ports... Maybe that's a timing issue...

But, yes, as clunky and old as that system is-- it principally does what it should and is perhaps underutilized. I'm sure there are systems out there that make this one look pretty snazzy.
Posted By: nonameyet Re: A few definitions needed - 12/30/04 01:47 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Orac:
[ Also, one of the T1 cards fails on all 24 ports... Maybe that's a timing issue...

But, yes, as clunky and old as that system is-- it principally does what it should and is perhaps underutilized. I'm sure there are systems out there that make this one look pretty snazzy.[/B]</font>

As far as a timing issue, the timing cable(it looks like a small coax cable)You only need it connected to the First T-1 card, some people dasiey chained it from one card to the next(NOT NEEDED)

Do you know how to check the T-1 status screen? if you get a status 14 then all is normal....

As far as ' other ' systems.. the IDS was/is KING!!
Posted By: Orac Re: A few definitions needed - 12/30/04 02:22 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by nonameyet:
As far as a timing issue, the timing cable(it looks like a small coax cable)You only need it connected to the First T-1 card, some people dasiey chained it from one card to the next(NOT NEEDED)

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That particular T1 was not connected to a CSU/DSU... it was "administratively down"...

Yes, the more I learn about the IDS, the more I like it...
Posted By: Orac Re: A few definitions needed - 01/03/05 12:50 PM
Update:
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">From: IDS Manual Issue F:
Conference port cards are added in groups (3 for the 648 and 2 for the 432, one in each cabinet) to a maximum of 5
Conference port cards in each cabinet. However, for each group of Conference port cards installed, the maximum configuration
of system is reduced by 24 (for the 432) or 36 (for the 648) ports.</font>

Ok, it does look like we have 576 ports installed of 540 available...

Looks like the software upgrade to 648 is the way to go at this point....

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We can forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life
is when men are afraid of the light.
- Plato

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Posted By: jjmaly Re: A few definitions needed - 01/12/05 05:19 PM
email me and I can help with your problem. I have everything for the IDS system. I also have CPU's with 648 ports and all the other cards.
email me and I will give you my number.
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