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Posted By: John807 Amp Butterfly tool male and female heads - 04/11/14 02:42 AM
Does anyone have a source for Amp male and Female heads?
TIA,
John
Always used Graybar.
The sad part is that these numbers are glued inside my brain
22912-1 and 22913-1 for Male and Female Amps.

I think we used to pay about $2.25 or so for them and I still have way too many left in the warehouse. A quick internet search shows the price is double that now https://store.cableorganizer.com/p-5392-50-pin-telco-connector-male-22912-1-5-pack.aspx

Carl

Posted By: brokeda Re: Amp Butterfly tool male and female heads - 04/15/14 04:41 PM
I used to have dreams about 25 pair and AMP tools back in the early 80's.
90 days straight. 25 pair Amp terminations at a large military facility in the 70s. Averaged 10 minutes per Amp. When we were young we used to race to see who do the most in a day. Now I'm lucky to remember where I last left the butterfly tool.
Same here. I used to think that I could beat the cost of buying pre-terminated cables by buying bulk cable and doing the terminations myself in the field when I first started out in business. I was only thinking about material cost since I was working by myself (invisible labor cost), but lugging a 1,000 foot reel of 25 pair cable around on service visits proved that productivity costs were killing me.

I will admit that I spent spare time making up anticipated cable runs or stock shorties for intercoms, RJ21s, etc., but I'm fairly sure that I was still losing money.

Last I heard, Target Distributing still has them on their standard inventory. They'll never go away, but I will never pay more than three bucks for them. Mainly because I'm still maintaining a lifetime supply as well as Carl.

I still own an AMP "butterfly" tool as well as a 3M one. I'll never let them go.
I remember 15 minutes apiece for 25 pair cables. When I did transmission work we had Oversized butterfly machines for the AT&T 28 & 32 pair cable. we made up heads to plug into the T-3 Muxes. First time I'd ever seen or even heard of those machines.

I still have an Amp tool and a few heads at home. I used it last a few years ago when a pipe leaked and I lost an amp head. Funny thing was I didn't know the pipe was leaking till I had trouble with the phones.Tracing out the problem pointed to one phone and a green am phenol.

Sam
Posted By: John807 Re: Amp Butterfly tool male and female heads - 04/19/14 11:19 PM
The 3M tool, that was the one the company I worked for bought, couldn't stand the spring thing that held the wires. "Inherited" the Amp tool. Can you still get 3M heads? I'll check Target we have an account. Anybody have a line on "Mickey Mouse" wall phones? building a Demo room full of telecom progression and voice quality.
Thanks,
John
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