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Hi everyone,

I'm new to PBX, currently we are using KX TES824 with 16 extensions (Moduled installed, using 1 Proprietary Telephone) and we have another spare of KX TES824. My question is, instead of buying KX-TE82483 module (3CO 8Ext),is there anyway that we can add extensions using our spare KX TES824 to our existing one? I mean using one (1) PT? If yes, can anyone here help me how to do that? I'm just thinking if there are some tweaks need to do in able to work it.

Thanks,
Halo.

simple answer is no, sell second unit and buy the card

Thanks for your reply, can you tell me what card should I purchased? We already maximized the allotted expansion cards and the maximum extension for this pbx which is 24. Im just hoping that there is a way that it can be integrated to second TES824 in simple and cheapest way. I found something called Asterisk but it seems expensive impractical for us.

if you have the 24 extension in already then it is full, you will have to look at a new system.

astericks is a free sip pbx, but you will need a server, sip phones and line interfaces.

A older kxtd 1232 could do what you want. other than that you will need a tde or NCP

@OBT

do you think connecting in series will do the trick?

=phone line ---- PBX 1
====================L1-- Ext line 1
====================L2-- Ext line 2
===========================up~
===========================to~
====================L23-- Ext line 23
====================L24-- PBX 2
==============================L1-- Ext line 25
==============================L2-- Ext line 26

@OBT

by the way, what do you mean I need tde or NCP?

The 824 product is just that, 8 lines 24 phones. you can't connect the first 2 lines in series because they don't supervise (mark each other busy) between the cabinets. In a severely obscure way, you could make 2 lines of a second 824 be extensions off the first 824 and grow the extension size to 30 (as in 8x22 and 2x8) but don't do it. You'd have other problems, like disconnect supervision and different dialing plans. For what you pay for a pair of disconnect modules and the waste, you can just buy a TD-1232 on the secondary market with 2 8-EXT modules for 8x32. YMMV.

As far as a TDE or NCP (the current Pana product) you'll find that you can probably buy the used TD-1232 box for less than the price of 2 new 16-port Single Line extension modules.

This is a Panasonic dealer question. We can tell you what to do, but not how. If you don't understand the concept, call your dealer.

Carl

@Carl Navarro

Does it mean if I have the following below, I can maximize the extension to 23+8 extensions?

1- TES824 with 24 extensions available
1- TES824 with 8 extensions available
1- PT
1- Telephone line

Get it out of your head can NOT use 2 824's in tandem ... The right thing to do is get a Panasonic KX-TDE 100 configured 8 co by 48 hybrid ext's or possibly a fully expanded Kx -td 1232

Absolutely! Plug in two 824's and you have 32 extensions. Expand the second box and you have 48 extensions. The numbering plan and the intercabinet calling is zero, the trunks don't share, but you can work 48 extensions.

There's a saying "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink". In Fidoland there's you can lead a horse's xxx to knowledge but you can't make him think".

Buy 2 of everything, or 1 TDA-1232 or a newer product with MSLC/SLC cards, but don't expect a miracle out of a fixed product. It's an 824 and I'm out of this thread.

Carl

WAY BEYOND THE SCOPE AND INTENDED AUDIENCE OF THIS FORUM. See "installers please read" at the top of the subject list.

yes but it is far from seamless exts on a line key is not a new concept !

Maybe the End Users are smarter in Qatar and Africa
than US? Can you say Dazed and Confused?

next thing this guy is going to ask is how do I set up central voicemail.....

Halo, you started off asking if you could make 2 kxtes824 in to one system, what you have done is have 2 systems with 1 channel between them for calls. this will allow 2 calls at one time between both systems...... not what I call intergration of systems. in the old days that was a tie line

It's absolutely possible to interconnect two KX-TES/824 PABXs and extensions call each other.Piece of cake.

WAY BEYOND THE INTENDED SCOPE AND AUDIENCE OF THIS FORUM.

No thanks need your details ,I don't think any one of us here sells anything smaller than a TDE or NCP now .

"never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience".

About 38 years ago, I set up a long line over 28 cable miles. It wasn't easy back in those days, because I was not able to just order an amplifier, so I used a pair of loop extenders wired back to back in each of my offices.

You should have heard the cussing when they finally pulled the cross connects :-) The loop extender uses about 140 volts to ground to signal LOL

To original poster: Can it be done? Yes. Is it practical? No! You can in effect hook any two dissimilar systems together, but not as one.
Sell the Ksu and get the card, very simple. But if that's all you got, and money is a problem, what else can you do?
Were just saying its not PRACTICAL!!!


I say lock this up before BS propagates! :db: :db: :db: :db:

WWWAAAAYYYYY beyond forum guidelines. CLICK!!