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#212578 01/08/08 04:26 AM
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I just thought I'd post my excitement for this new Vertical product. It seems very close to an STSe but with VOIP and SIP capabilities. It will be much more flexible than the Excellerator and much easier to sell due to the co line capacity. Does anyone else share in my excitement ?


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Yes. I also like the fact that all station ports (except the first one) will support digital or analog phones like Panasonic and Partner systems. I also like the fact that the programming procedure is very similar to the format used by the STS/XTS family so there's less of a learning curve. The pricing looks to be right-on as well.


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Where is the information for this, I'm clicking around the websites but haven't found anything with the pricing or features.

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It hasn't been formally released yet. It's not an entirely new product, in fact it's been marketed in Europe for about two years, so we know that it works. I signed up for Beta testing and got some good general product description material. I have only been told by my regional sales rep that it will be less expensive than the STSe. From what I understand, it was announced at the last dealer conference, but I missed that one.


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Ahhh, gotcha, our office manager fails to keep me up to date on some things, I figured this was one of them. From what I did find it looks pretty slick and looks to be a little easier to get people to look at versus the Exellerator. Can't wait to get my hands on one.Thanks for the info.

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I do not like the fact that it is limited to co line and station expansion in comparison to STSe,
and XTSc.

It leaves a area uncovered after 24 stations and 8 to 12 trunks.

I still need good TDM system, which the STSe fits.

Please correct me if I'm wrong about capabilities of the SBX.


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It is great that it will have IP capabilities, but I do not like that it can only have 4 IP licenses for SIP lines, IP Telephones, or for networking. Perhaps they will come out with a larger IP card capacity, something that can go up to 8-12 would be far more useful in the long run....but anything is better than nothing I suppose.

Has anyone seen the phones? I am guessing that they are the LG LDK telephones from the description in the email.

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The phones are identical in appearance to the current IP phones used with the Telenium and XTS systems, although they are much less expensive. They are also not IP phones, but the new 4000 series digital sets. The nice thing about this is that both local and remote sets will appear and function the same way. I like that.


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Here is a picture of the 24 button set. Note that the 4000 series phones won't have a backlit display:

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Yeah, those are indeed the same as the LDP-7008D and LDP-7024D digital phones - those are the ones they market for LG-Nortel switches...since something like 2004. Great looking phones IMO.

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I agree about the appearance of the phones. They are definitely using the same mold from the IP phones for the new TDM phones on the SBX. Keep in mind that they will only work with the SBX, so there's absolutely no backward compatibility with the STSe. I've been told that once this system takes off, the STSe will be discontinued.

That's fine for future new sales, but I am concerned about support for existing STS installations. The general consensus is that the STS product line's life will end around the end of this year. That's a shame, seeing as how this is one of Vodavi's most successful product lines ever introduced. I'd like to see it live forever.

From what I have been told, there are no plans to change anything with regard to the XTS family of systems and that's a good thing.


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Has anyone heard whether this will be a dealer product or whether any old Joe can get it through a distributor ? That's 1 thing I always hated about the STS is that I get underbid by a guy working out of the trunk of his station wagon that has never had any training on Vodavi.
I hope it is a dealer product.


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No, it's not going to be a dealer-only product. It's going to be sold through the same dealer channels as the STSe. Basically anybody can buy it.


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We have got word that all the beta units are spoken for already, we were unable to get one, has anyone been able to get one spoken for yet.

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So has anyone installed any of the beta systems yet ? If so, how well does it seem to work ? Does it program simillar to the STS ? Any feedback is appreciated.


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I actually called your office yesterday since you were the only one I could find that had it on their website, hoping you had gotten a chance on it, I can't remember who I talked to though.

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Hey all,

Does anyone have instruction on how to setup an IP phone and/or softphone on the SBX IP 320?

I've read the entire manual, which sucks, and I still can't get an IP phone to work.

Thanks,

Dave

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Yes. Tech Support has a cheat sheet on how to setup the IP phones.

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Do you have a copy of it? Or a particular technician to ask for when calling as the last time I asked for a cheat sheet the tech. sent me the Telenium IP installation manual.

Vertical tech. support, don't even get me started.

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Dont even bother with the tech support on the 320!!! I spent two hours on the phone with them two weeks ago when installing my third one. Lately the time waiting on hold before someone picks up has been horrible as well! Ive got a cheat sheet for everything accept for the ip part. Wish I could help ya!

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Ok I'm set on the IP configuration thanks to nfcphoneman. Of course it was the ONE setting I was missing and the manual made no reference to it.

OK just finished my 2nd install, first one with voicemail, and have several questions.

1. Under PGM 100 (Location Information), what do the "Type" and "ANNC" settings accomplish vs. the same settings under PGM 140 (CO Line List)?

2. Is there an option for a On-hold reminder tone/timer? Found the recall timer, set it to zero to prevent calls from ringing back into a VM Box, but would still like a reminder.

3. WHERE do you assign stations to a Pickup Group!!?? The Pickup key is currently returning an error tone vs. picking up a ringing phone.

4. Is there an option/code to have calls directed to an extension (at night via VM announcement) go directly to the extension VM Box vs. ringing 4 times.

5. Can the H/T/P option be set via Admin programming or is it strictly a station option?

6. Page 1-6 of the 7224D user guide lists the "Station Ring Type" with 4 rings settings; this is also available via Admin programming.

Why, when 15 ICM/CO Ring options are available via the RING PROGRAM? In addition, are the RING PROGRAM options programmable via Admin programming?

7. Last but no least, PGM 116 Display's Station COS assigned to a station, where are the COS settings defined?

Thanks,

Dave

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Xcountry,

You hit the nail on the head about Toni is the only tech. to call. Just to clairify, you have to call the Vodavi support number to reach her vs. the Vertical number. I believe she's the lead tech. for the SBX, as she referred to it, it's her baby.

I spent about 45 mins on the phone with her going over the questions below and several others I'd like to share. Look for my answers below.

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Ok I'm set on the IP configuration thanks to nfcphoneman. Of course it was the ONE setting I was missing and the manual made no reference to it.

The IP Cheat Sheet is one of several FAQ's which will be posted on the CCC site shortly.

OK just finished my 2nd install, first one with voicemail, and have several questions.

1. Under PGM 100 (Location Information), what do the "Type" and "ANNC" settings accomplish vs. the same settings under PGM 140 (CO Line List)?

The TYPE and ANNC entry under PGM 100 should not be used, ironically if you follow the proceedure in the Quick Start Guide it populates these fields. They are legacy settings and may be removed in future revisions. Use PGM 140 ONLY to route CO line ringing. Set TYPE=NONE and ANNC = 0

2. Is there an option for a On-hold reminder tone/timer? Found the recall timer, set it to zero to prevent calls from ringing back into a VM Box, but would still like a reminder.

There is NO Hold Reminder Tone at this time.

3. WHERE do you assign stations to a Pickup Group!!?? The Pickup key is currently returning an error tone vs. picking up a ringing phone.

STATION GROUP (PGM 190/191) is used to not only define UCD Groups, but there is an option in the drop down menu to select "Pick up" to create a PICKUP Group. The Pickup attribute is automatically set to ON when you save this group, it is optional for all others, meaning you can give Agents in a UCD group the ability to Pickup other Agent calls, or NOT.

Note: You can also use a Feature code 7 (Directed Pickup) to pickup stations/CO's/or UCD Groups, i.e. Dialing 702 will pickup ringing CO line 2, 7629 will pickup UCD 629, and 7101 will pickup extension 101.

4. Is there an option/code to have calls directed to an extension (at night via VM announcement) go directly to the extension VM Box vs. ringing 4 times.

NO, the station owner would have to set an unconditional foward at their station directed to VMIB. Fowarding at the station level overrides system fowarding, i.e. Auto VMIB.

5. Can the H/T/P option be set via Admin programming or is it strictly a station option?

NOPE! Would be nice, but not on this release.

6. Page 1-6 of the 7224D user guide lists the "Station Ring Type" with 4 rings settings; this is also available via Admin programming.

Why, when 15 ICM/CO Ring options are available via the RING PROGRAM? In addition, are the RING PROGRAM options programmable via Admin programming?

Answer, no clue! Forget the RING TYPE under PGM 111, just set the ICM and CO ring types at each station as this is a user choice.


7. Last but no least, PGM 116 Display's Station COS assigned to a station, where are the COS settings defined?

PGM 116 assigns stations to a group which is tied to the tables. Toni is still working on figuring out how exactly they work and will post a FAQ soon.

Some additional information/notes:

1. When auto attendant is in front of the system the DISA boxes MUST be checked in order for it to accept digits, HOWEVER if it's behind the system, i.e. calls routed to a UCD group and overflow is the VMIB as a backup, the DISA boxes MUST BE UNCHECKED otherwise calls will be disconnected without the option to dial digits.

Why? It's a quirk, something to do with it doing double duty.

2. You must enable Call Foward on Busy to the VMIB AT THE STATION or additional calls to a busy station from the auto attendant will ring busy vs. routing to the users VM Box.

3. IF DND is set at a station it overrides everything and calls will NOT foward to voicemail. This will be fixed in the next release. Have the customer use UNCONDITIONAL foward to VM as their DND for now. I would disable DND via PGM 111 to prevent users from disabling their FWD to VM.

4. The SPEED EDITOR program can be downloaded from ftp.vodavi.com, it will be posted to the CCC site soon.

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Hope this helps everyone.

Dave

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1. I think the PGM 100 was supposed to be that easy set up option they were braggin about in the webinar. The ring option doesn't work right - the correct vm announcement doesn't pick up. I figured out how to make it work, but it's just as easy to use PGM 140 (which in the long run is more flexible).

7. In one of the guides, it lists how the station COS relates to the toll restriction tables. I printed out the page - I believe its the Programming manual, pg 1-19.

2 - Fwd on Busy. I'm hoping they fix that quirk soon. Additonal notes: If you are using station groups, in the group, uncheck the fwd option. Otherwise, a phone that is fwd on busy will not ring with the group. The other thing I noticed is when a phone is busy fwd, it will not voice announce on itcm.

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If you are setting up a IP phone remotely here's the procedure from Toni:

at the prompt "set(*) reboot(#)"

press *
dial password (NO PASSWORDS PLEASE)
press *
press # to change to remote system

Use the volume up/down key to change IP settings

The phones MAC address must be entered in pgm 386

Scroll to MFIM address:

Enter the address of the voib card locate in pgm 340

Press hold/save(I think)

Press speaker to complete. The phone should reboot and connect.

if you don't enter the MAC address of the phone it won't work. You also don't need a password for an IP set, only a soft phone.

Also: You can only FWD B/NA to VM after you've recorded a personal message.

Also: if you set up a hunt group with IP phones and soft phones the system will ring them in station order (ie 109 then 110) even if you program it in an alternate order(programmed as 110, then 109). Don't know if it's the same with TDM hunt groups.

Anybody know how to see another phones message light or get an indication of messages? Can it be done in a Station Group?

Anybody figure out how to stop the DND/FWD light flashing when the phones forwarded to VM?

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