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... if we all want to stay in business we need to be able to work and intergrate with it...
You know, I keep hearing this chant and it may have some truth to it but it's not the way some of us want or are able to go.
You can’t say I’m a grumpy old man against progress and change, I’ve been through plenty of it in my time. I started out with 1A2's and when electronic systems were introduced I had no problem "integrating". The reason was that the technology was developed by our industry for our industry and there was no argument that it made our jobs easier, more profitable and was better for the customer.
The problem now as I see it, is that this industry is headed for a convergence, even a takeover by the computer-centric IT industry. The challenge is not only the technology, (how many of us have the acumen to become MSCNE’s or CCNE’s) but one of basic philosophy. Do we want to become part of an industry whose cornerstone is planned obsolescence, poor reliability and an attitude of “buy it now, we’ll make it work with the next release� Do we want to have to rely on people who couldn’t run a cable to save their life or have no idea what a POTS line is no less how to test it?
-Hal
CALIFORNIA PROPOSITION 65 WARNING: Some comments made by me are known to the State of California to cause irreversible brain damage and serious mental disorders leading to confinement.
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Originally posted by Old blond hippity hopping Bunnie:
May I suggest something? Could you please break up long posts using the return key to make paragraphs?
Bunnie Did I click on the wrong Favorites button to end up in English U812 class ?? I would think that Bunnie could have copied, cut, pasted, edited with desired paragraph spacing and read any long articles faster than typing a post ??
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Has a valid point of manufacture's forcing vendors and customers into "convergence" or they cannot upgrade their system , or after this date this TDM product will no longer be supported , or this TDM product line is no longer being manufactured you can only purchase this IP based product to fit into this niche of system size .
Let It Be , I live in a Yellow Submarine . SCCE
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Sure, just look at what Avaya has done. They are discontinuing the Magix and even running a sales incentive and contest to "turn those old key-hybrid customers into IP Office customers".
And if you have a potential customer that is too big for a Partner what can you offer them?
-Hal
CALIFORNIA PROPOSITION 65 WARNING: Some comments made by me are known to the State of California to cause irreversible brain damage and serious mental disorders leading to confinement.
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Hey, Hal, maybe a Vodavi? 
Ed Vaughn, MBSWWYPBX
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Originally posted by ev607797: Hey, Hal, maybe a Vodavi? :rofl:
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About all I can to this post without being edited is: If you don't believe in the product line you are selling then it is time to find a new product line.
Avaya SMB Authorized Business Partner. ACIS/APSS ESI Certified Reseller/Installer www.regal-comm.com
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Mike, just because someone is a dealer for a manufacturer doesn't mean that he has to push everything that manufacturer has to offer.
There aren't too many manufacturers out there that haven't got at least a few duds in their product line.
Hey, how many Transtalks have you sold lately?
-Hal
CALIFORNIA PROPOSITION 65 WARNING: Some comments made by me are known to the State of California to cause irreversible brain damage and serious mental disorders leading to confinement.
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I agree with Hal,
Never ,never, never just stay with one manufacturer, your just tiring your hands, I won't even consider Avaya for large or VOIP customers.
As far as the article, I don't buy into it.
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