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HI I got a request from a National to install cable and WAP's. She is suppling all the material. She was wondering what type of 8 position crystals I use. I told her all my other customers request female jacks and patch cords at the WAP end. She agreed and is sending jacks and patch cords.
What does everyone else do? Jacks or crimp ends on at the WAP end. I have tryed to do this but my tester will not pass hand crimped connectors. Thanks

8C Jack, with a surface mount box.

What is an "8 position crystal" ?

oh...right...no need to use the real word, with four letters, that everyone in the English-speaking world would understand, when you can use some obscure ambiguous term, with seven letters.

I thought he was talking about crystals in the RF section of the AP. Not that anybody uses them anymore.

-Hal

I'm just making a guess based on the context

IT idiots here call modular plugs "ice cubes".

I still don't know where "biscuit" for a surface mount jack came from.

I don't either. We used a drinking water glass to press out biscuits so they were ROUND

Probably from trunk slammer going into a supplier and asking for those jacks that look like a "tea biscuit".

I don't find "biscuit" too annoying, since most of us use that term. Let's not try to eliminate all jargon, because some of the words are truly as descriptive as we can invent. Where would we be without kerchunker, shoebox, cigar box, mushroom, whale dick, combo, icky-pic, rat bag, and beanies? Not to mention Why Run Backward, You'll Vomit.

I believe, and don't quote me on this, but the term "biscuit jack" referred to the one-piece surface jacks that were made by Communications Apparatus Corp. (CAC; later Siecor) that had the corners chopped off so that they were nearly round in shape. They did almost resemble the shape of a biscuit. They were pretty stupid looking in my book, but Contel used them everywhere around here.

Oh and while we're on the subject, the Bell guys around here referred to B wire connectors ("beenies") as mouse rubbers.

The security guys still use them. That's why they are known as "Beenie Boys".

-Hal

I think youre talking about "rooster rubbers"

Must be a regional thing...down here they were mouse rubbers also.

Pretty uncomfortable, I mean, aren't they kinda stiff to be used for that? And they have those painful bronze teeth inside...

Here they were "Good and Plenty's"

Sam

"Milk Bottles" up here...

Wow. I've been around for a long time, but must lead a pretty sheltered life! I've heard of a few of those, but most of those terms are new to me.

Here's one I'll throw out: Ram's head (outside plant guys will know this one).

Jim

I get good and pile ties at a movie theater with pop corn

Kerchunker = Scotchlok tool

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Shoebox = 551 KSU

Cigar box = 105 apparatus box

Mushroom = wiring spool

Whale dick = buried splice enclosure

Icky-pic = filled cable

Rat bag = Ready Access Terminal

Do you have a picture of the 105 apparatus box? Just curious.

I knew the mushroom and icky pic. We call a RAT a 'boot'.

Jeff -

A 105 apparatus mounting box is the mounting that was used for 1A KTUs.

I'll see if I can get a picture for you.

Sam

I do both depending on situations.
Typically jacks and patch cords when something is in a location that will "never" change or can be reused by other CPE.

Ends/Long cords when the equipment will likely be moved/removed within next few years or when space is very limited.

I knew about half of those, but one I don't know is National. What the samhill is a national?

National = A company that provides nationwide service to a client but has to sub-contract to local interconnects for doing the actual work. Aka as ROA "Rip Off Artists;" DB "Dead Beats" or just plain "Idiots."

Rams head I am guessing is the dead end connection on a pole for the strand. That's what I learned the term meant when I did OSP.

Rcaman

Thanks Rcaman, any one out there ever use a chicken catcher?
Also, I think we called a buried terminal a donut.

Rams head is the first connection on a building for a drop, J hook at the pole. Can't remember the term for the attachment at the end of a strand run, Johnny ball maybe?

When I was on the crew, ram's head was the thing bolted to the top of a pole that an anchor or down guy was attached to.

Looks like they were both called Rams Head's, I don't remember the down guy attachment being called a Rams Head though.

Drop wire rams head

Down guy rams head

Up here, the 1st link was called "Ram's Horn". The 2nd was called a "Guy Hook".

I'm sure terms differ the johnny ball wasn't an attachment it was a insulator in the down guy. It's been a lot of years since I've heard any of these terms. Including what Arthur started with. Some I'd just as soon forget about.

216 = can wrench = nut driver

Don't forget your butter.

Spudgers and orange sticks