Sorry, Larry.........you are the exception that proves the rules.

And, yes, to agree with the stupidity of some of the BICSI is outrageous...they have overseas influences...who needs a metric rack? Or 568A wiring? Only those manufacturers that make two pair required phone systems, CGs, and installers who are NOT located in the US. By their very name they claim to be international....and we have all seen pictures of even the PSTN from "over there".

IF (and that is a big IF) BISCI ever gets it's act together, the first thing it needs to do is abandon a lot of the old Bell System cabling requirements from back East. SWBT did things a lot better....of course, I was trained by SWBT. But this discussion could go on for ever.

And, yes, I have BICSI training, it is the base for IBEW LV training in most locals, and it is strictly a political football in most locations.

My $1-2.98.


Ken
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