I just finished an install of 50data and 30 voice in a plenum environment. I ran Cat5e and Cat3 all of it terminated to patch panels.

Running Cat5e for TDM voice is very costly due to the amount of labor required to install it. If it is plenum then it costs at least twice as much as Cat3. To charge the customer or, yourself for that matter, for something that costs two to three times as much and isn't necessary for the job, well that's just an unwise thing to do in my opinion.

However we are not talking apples to apples here. This forum is primarily used by business to business techs. Residentual wiring is a whole different ball game. So before things escalate I am closing this topic.

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