Thanks for the link pbresq. I thought I tried that the other day (the most obvious) and it didn't work. Worked tonight though.

Now I do recognize some of the DMP products, I have used their smokes, heats, and sirens/strobes before. They have been around for years but I don't think they have been into control panels that long. I found an "obsolete" heading on their site and those panels look identical to the Moose (Sentrol) panels I have used (and liked!) before. Some of their current panels do look like Caddx, as a matter of fact, I even saw what looked like a Caddx manual in the picture. I wonder if they are somehow affiliated with GE Security (Sentrol and Caddx are). Don't know much about their new panels (who makes them) but their new keypads certainly look kind of sexy. The 4X3 button matrix would certainly throw some people off when we are used to the 3X4 like a telephone (2580 down the centre).