We're seeing that crap with most new large building construction in Verizon's (former Bell Atlantic) territory as well. Not so much in the former GTE areas. They are still doing copper with fiber only for HICAP circuits.

We are also doing a booming business troubleshooting fax, modem and alarm line issues as a result.

Most of the new larger buildings that I've seen in the Bell areas still have a fairly small-count copper feed (say, 100 pair) that I assume is for those issues. One new apartment building that I saw recently had about twenty pairs already cross-connected to the copper. I'm pretty sure that I know what those pairs were feeding.


Ed Vaughn, MBSWWYPBX