Derrick, you might be one to something there, I remember progarammjng the card as 17 which was something llke vm1b. So if I change that to 018 then it might fix the interfacing. Thank you guys for your time. This system was put in my my boss around 2006, he is off after having hip surgery and frankly doesnt remember how he programmed it many years back. This might be the only xts we have put in with the on board vm.