That probably explains the issue.. being version backward compatiable that is. I appreciate your assistance. I can call this in as a trouble ticket as I have full maintenance. Avaya should then handle the patch. It will give them a sence of usefullness plus it will keep me from screwing something up. Thanks again... I didn't think of the age of the ASA. :bow: Rhonda

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