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test 123

White
Red
Black
Orange
Violet

blue
orange
green
brown
slate

Just wanted to be part of the test lol

Haha...

Can we get into super binders too!

QUIZ

Which binder is LEFT out of a super binder?

Is it:

A) Blue
B) Orange
C) Green
D) Brown
E) Slate

Stay tuned for the answer!

better yet, what is the difference between S and SD bundles?

[This message has been edited by HtownDan (edited March 23, 2004).]

Well AvayaNovice I spliced a lot of cable and haven't heard the term. Only thing I can think you may mean is the last group in a 600 pair cable which is the violet brown, which to your question would be slate, but that doesn't make sense to me since cables go bigger than 600pr. Of course it's been a couple of years since I was a splicer, like around 20.
Bill

Gota be part of it myself

Why
Run
Backwards
You
Varment

also

Go
Right
Back
You

For you electronic guys
Boy
On
Girl
Brings
Great
Pleasure

Hope not to offend anyone

I have seen cables that were divided into 100 pairs with a binder around each 100 pairs.
The white slate binder was left out. This would be my guess. I do know the difference between jelly and booger cable.
JBW

It is slate, but only for one bundle in the 600 pr group (the last). The breakdown of a 600 pair is done in 125 pr increments, using the color patterns you all already know. Two wraps are used on these bundles, one two represent the 600 pair group (WRBYV) and one to represent the 5 groups in the 125pr bundle (BOGBS). This hold until pair 501-600 which is only 100pr and hence BOGB and no Slate.

I'll be darn. Just never heard the term, super binder before. So is the same term used for the last binder in any cable? Biggest PIC cable I've ever splice was a 1200 pair, 28 gauge. Like splicing hair.
Bill

You got it.

The last slate binder is left out.

Hence why larger F1 cables come in multiples of 600.

At least now a days it's a plastic binder wrap... used to be string, and after a few years in the hole with a gel filling... things can get tricky.

28 guage cable would be gnarly to splice, especially using B connectors, which is all I can imagine you guys would use for high density splicing back then, wow.

You've definetely got my appreciation -- that's a talent! I couldn't begin to learn to work with such conditions. I complain about 24 guage

It was an experiment GTE was doing to save duct space in manholes. This was over 30 years ago, so no filled cables then. They used a special amp connector made for the small gauge. Don't know how it all worked out, I got a job with the Bell System shortly after that. Of course we splice larger pulp cables. What amazes me is one glass can carry more information then the largest cable I ever spliced.
Feeling pretty old here.
Bill

Well...

Any type of modulated frequency carrying cable has a much larger capacity than a copper loop ever will. The problem is there are many more pieces of active electronics with RF/optical.

Copper loops are much more economical.

Cable telephony for instance is going to be interesting. We're going to be placing active VOIP boxes fairly soon. In some systems, they have taps that have access doors with 110 blocks in them, and that part takes care of dialtone off of the cable system.

Very interesting stuff.

Fiber is a great thing, it just sucks to splice. Some of the larger trunk fiber we use to feed remote headends is 144 strands plus. Takes over a day to splice the whole thing.

Give me a 25 pair 710 press any day.