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On a quest for historical knowledge!
Does anyone know the origin use of the term "JK" for quad "jake" station cable?
Thanks.
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I would tend to think that it was nomenclature by Western Electric, like "D,F,G,H,J or L" station wire, "D" inside wiring cable or "F" cross-connect wire.
I do know that in the 1950's and 1960's, there was "JKT" wire, which I believe was quad but 20 gauge unlike today's 22 gauge. It was the stuff about the size of coax (RG59) cable and had paper between the jacket and the conductors. The paper never came off without a fight.
People look at me like I am crazy when I mention "JK" wire these days, despite the fact that there are millions of miles of it carrying DSL and dial-up Internet connections. Of course, it's now been deemed to be the bad stuff even after fifty years.
So, what is the answer? Am I close?
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I thought it was "JKT" for "jacketed" wire, as opposed to the old 3-conductor twisted wire, with the colored thread to denote the conductors?
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Never thought about what it meant, didn't really care I guess. I do know as Ed stated it used to come in 20 gauge 3 wire with paper, there was a 4 wire also. I'll leave this one to you "older" techs.
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Ed, What is the difference between station cable and inside wiring cable? What if JK is short for JACK? just a thought...
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Give TTT a cigar --- sorta! The best was when we got "Touch Tone", now we carried even more stuff on our trucks. Sometime I'll tell you the story of 17 ga aluminum OSP cable. Okay, now back to sleep ---- 
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the old 3-conductor twisted wire, with the colored thread to denote the conductors
That was and still is called "ring wire", now it's 1 pair.
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we called it bridle wire, not sure if the spelling is correct.
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Yes, heard it called that too.
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