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Sam; do you still have the grey buzzer? the one that only had continuaty and z with 2 d cells.
any chance you'd part with it?

We pull all the drops, voice and data. WE then terminate on both ends then tone and use the Data Lites. I have never had a customer say why ask why the jack is labeled V-1 D-14. I did have a customer ask me to have all the wall plate screws horizontal though, he never asked about the labels. Our installers use walkie talkies and can cruise pretty well.

We are currently doing 4 school projects with about 400 Cat 6 drops per school. There we will have to have all the cables labeled on both ends before termination and have a room by room number strategy. We have all the drops on the plans numbered and it is working fine. The guys say it just takes a little longer to label the wires first but on the back end certifying will go faster because all the plates will be labeled.

So it's like flipping a coin on the way to do it.

I say it's 5:00 somewhere and I am having a beer!!

:toast:

Cosmo

Patch panels labeled out of sequence would drive me bonkers. Seems more professional to see A-01 thru A-48 as opposed to A-36 thru A-13. I just don't see the huge time difference in labeling cables. When you puch down it's not like you have to start with 1 anyway.

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There used to be a company called "data lite" but I guess they were bought by Ideal. They send light on the third pair. You flip a toggle if you want the light to be green or red. I have 300 of the little lights from a long time ago and two sets of transmitters. You put a little RJ45 plug into each of your patch panel ports. Then the guy on the other end puts the light into the unknown number. The guy at the patch panel sees a green and a red light. We usually make the green the first jack on the faceplate and the red is the right side. Then you get the numbers, print them out and you're done. By the way, you can even send the light on an unterminated cable.....just put your toner clips on the third pair.

the patch panels and 66 blocks are numbered in sequence it the workstation end that's random (but marked)

Ok. So at least the PP is marked in order.

I prefer that the V and D cable numbers match. Inevitably, there will be more voice cables than data, so if there's a 48 port patch panel, the extra voice cables start with 49 or something like that.

If it is a situation where multiple data cables per work station are required, I'll set up two separate patch panels: One for the primary data cables and the second (with the same numbers) for the secondary ones. The panels are labeled "A" and "B" with pedestal marking stickers so that there's no confusion.

If they weren't so labor-intensive, I'd prefer to use the unloaded patch panels so that the jack modules can remain the same color at both ends.

I guess everybody has their own preferences but for me it all depends on how many cables we're talking about and how far apart they are at the distant end.

But generally speaking if I'm running around 20 cables or less I run the cables, terminate both ends, tone & label without concern to the order or precise location of each cable.

If I'm running 20-40 cables I like to group them into groups of 10 and keep them in close proximity to each other, I still don't worry about the precise location of any particular cable or any labeling while running them. The only real benefit is I can tell how how many cables I have pulled so I don't miss one or more. (If I have 15 cables and 16 outlets I know I missed one)

If I'm running 40 and above I usually have a set of floor plans and I like to label every cable before running it and mark the precise location of each one on the plan as I run them.
That just helps me keep it all straight in my little pea brain.

"Sam; do you still have the grey buzzer? the one that only had continuaty and z with 2 d cells.any chance you'd part with it?"

Jim -

I'll look for it in the dreaded basement. If I still have it, it's yours.

Sam

Me three!

I really like putting in the exact number of PP ports, as there are jacks, as opposed to buying a 48 port patch panel, when the customer has 37 data runs. Inevitably a service call is : "I plugged into port 41 on the patch panel, but my jack isn't active"...

But in the end, the blanked out patch panels are too much of a pain.