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#449810 10/06/08 05:00 AM
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In have a customer where the electrical ciontractor screwed up and installed DBL gang mud rings where wall phones need to be installed. I can't seem to find anyone that manufactures a wall mt jack that will fit
Anyone with any ideas where to get these plates?
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No the sparkie didn't screw up. Just ask him.

Anyway, everybody makes 2 gang plates for keystone jacks. I have to keep them in stock for exactly this reason.

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You will probably have to mount the phone off to the side on screws. Either that or mount your wall jack and cut down a blank plate to butt up to it. I've never seen a wall jack for a double gang.


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I had one recently and did what Bill suggested

mounted the wall jack on one side cut down a blank to fill the rest of the hole

use the nylon blank covers

I was hardly noticeable , the phone covered most of the blank


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Oops, sorry. I didn't see that it was a WALL jack. shocked

You can do as has been suggested or you can do what I would do- make sparkie do what's necessary to fix it.

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You could also replace the two gang mud ring with a single gang adapter plate and mount the jack on that. You may need to trim the sheetrock a little to get to the mounting screws. Be careful and it'll work out. I've done it often. If the wallpaper's up already...well.

But otherwise a little spackle and paint to fill in the gap and you'll be OK. Depending on the model of phone, you may not even need to spackle, the phone body might cover all the sins.


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I am assuming that you mean a 4" metal box, with a steel 2-gang mud ring attached. If you are talking about a sheet-metal low voltage ring, then you may ignore this message.

I have had success gently chipping around the steel 2-gang ring and replacing it with one of these:

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Then you can mount your 630-type RJ11W to the screw holes that are now centered in the box. The telephone covers up the edges, or you can do a little spackling.


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I've approached these in the past by buying plastic two-gang blank plates to cover the opening , then drilling a hole in the plate to accommodate a 630 jack over two of the original plate screws. I then threaded the cable through the drilled hole and the 630 plate screws went through the original plate screw holes and into the mud ring. True, there was half of a blank plate showing, but it got us done and paid rather than waiting for the GC to fix the problem.

***Note: Nylon plates work much better for this since standard bakelite plastic plates don't take well to drilling and tend to crack.***


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You could also replace the two gang mud ring

IF a mud ring was used. Nowadays you find lots of things- plastic boxes, plastic LV boxes, plastic rings, electrical boxes, 1900 boxes (with a mud ring). Basically what they find at HD or Lowes cheap.

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