atcomsystems.ca/forum Forums Wiring - Telecom Carriers - Trunks & Services Cabling Telephones Systems Wiring WOW this economy is going to h@ll in a hand basket

I have a great laugh for you all.

Yesterday i went out to look at a big job it needed 23 cables ran and the installation of a ESI S Class. Well i though that i would be running the cables since i was doing the reinstall of the phone system so I went to the office to get the needed materials to cable the building when i got 2 out of town down system calls. So the electrician doing the job called in some people that decided to rum 23 cables for 800 dollars and heck i was out there today setting up the system and saw the heinous work that they did it was so out of normal standards. I took several pictures and i will load them up and let yall see what i had to deal with it was priceless.

They ran cables in the ceiling and i got a call from the contractor I have to go and pull all those cables out tomorrow since the inspector failed inspection. they had cables running all over the ac duct work and they even ran cables under grid wire and the sad thing about it was as they were running them into the equipment room i was terminating them all so it makes me so mad that people can slop work in and get away with it.

Pictures to be put up later tonight or tomorrow

Nothing would surprise me anymore either. Twice this week I had the same experience....job walk at a recording studio and I commented "it should be easy to get the cables pulled in right now since the ceilings are open to the rafters" - answer - "Oh, the drywaller is closing all of that up starting tomorrow". Next a 15,000 sq ft Bank executive offices, all conduits too small and in the wrong places for the conference room AV work - sure enough, the drywallers will be one siding the next few days and are calling for inspection on Friday.

yeah i know how you feel

Fantastic story. One after another we see customers going the cheap route to put it mildly.

Some are shortsighted, then some really are dying on the vine and cutting all costs.

Our profits right now are the third best year since 1984 thanks to shortsighted people buying from people like Mr. 800 dollar cable guy. We charge much higher margins to go in a clean up messes than we do to tackle a cabling job ourselves from the start.

OMG, I've seen this over and over lately. Customer is moving, looking for a quote on cabling their new office. We give them a price and they go with a guy who beats us by thousands less. Then I have to go in afterwards to fix the problems. It looks like $h!T but the customer doesn't care. Then they bitch about our invoice!