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Jeff, if you're speaking of the 66E3 blocks, the answer would be not just yes, but about 350 yes.

PM sent, Ed.

We only had a butterfly tool to use on big jobs.
Smaller jobs were done with this tool for Amphenols

https://www.sundance-communications.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/ubb/get_topic/f/24/t/000803/p/1.html

Just punchdown handle and a different blade and a plate to hold the Amphenol

I've never been able to part with the small palm grip Amp version because old connectors are easy to reuse from old installs. I have a small stash "just in case" but they are just gathering dust. The link to Skip's old post shows that tool but it is the teeny tiny small item in the lower left corner of the smaller pic. Actually, it was larger enough to sit in your palm and had a cutting blade in it. The larger picture shows the tool for just pushing in a single loose connector. Watching a tech use that single insertion tool for a whole connector once was insane.

The 3M tool was the fastest field terminating tool but the one on Ebay isn't going to sell at that price. When I used these tools regularly, the 3M/Amp Butterfly/Amp Palm generally took me 6/12/30 minutes respectively.

Ive still got the hand tool pictured in the old thread , I just dumped the two butterfly tools when it become obvious we weren't getting 1A2 MACS anymore.

I have a dozen or so new connectors kicking around

LOL, the first time I used the 3M tool it took me 30 minutes. But most of that was figuring out how to lay the dies in, and position the cable, and how it worked. The third cable I made with it I was down to around 10 minutes or so. What took me so long was stringing the wires through the comb and making sure the cable was right side up so it fanned out correctly (or at least easier to run through the comb).

I like how the base of the 3M one had two screw cut-outs in it. I was able to put two drywall screws in the wall and hang it wherever I wanted. Also had the rubber feet on the bottom so you could use it on a desk without scratching it.

I should try to go find that thing and sell it.

My AMP tool arrived today. Damn, now I know why they cost new over a grand. The thing is monsterous. Tomorrow I will attempt to figure it out with the TYCO instructions.

Joe

Joe, Now you can start salvaging the old Amp champ connectors from old cables & such. Since they are reuseable and the 3M were not, you have the more practical tool.

A grand???? I just dug mine out of storage....Seems I paid about 7 hundred thirty years ago...... :shrug:

I never salvaged and re-used connectors with the labor time involved I just used new ones rather than chancing a bad connection

yea , ken I remeber them in the 700 range too .