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I know Texas doesn't give them out, but when did AT&T stop giving out Binding posts in California? They keep telling me it has been for years but I'm used to AT&T lying to me. I got one just a couple months ago.

I find this VERY irritating as I always verify the BP before having them dispatch. In the last couple years their techs are getting better at marking the BPs, but what about long term clients? Now if we got NDT we have to wait for a field visit to mark it and then report it again?

RIDICULOUS!

Are you telling us you open their terminal with a 216B and put 216B can wrench on their binder post and lift off their connection to the rj21x or network interface to test to see if there is dialtone ????

It depends on who you talk to, some repair dept people will give it to you, some will not. Some say it's company policy while others give it to you no problem. I find verizon harder to get BP info than from at&t.

The only time verizon would gladly give out cable pair assignments was when they striked 20 years ago

Leave the OSP to the OSP techs.

Hey Astro94 I see you are from CA. Am I totally wrong here or just been lucky on every BP request so far? Since I left AT&T in 1984, BP's were a simple phone call as long as you had the information to verify the account.

Real RJ21X's are pretty rare up here. Most of the MPOEs I go to, there is nothing more than the 66 blocks on the green board of the building terminal to punch down to. On CT installs they frequently didn't send a tech to even mark it much less put up a proper interface with bridge clips for isolation. Calling repair service to find out what BP was on a new install was common. Up until this call it has never been much of an issue.

I must admit on new installs during the past year or so I am beginning to see torn off pieces of paper skewered on a piece of wire with the number & BP wrapped around the fanning strip next to the BP row. If it isn't an open building terminal, even these tags for the numbers are often inside the can.

Believe me I am more than happy to leave the OSP techs to do their work, However it is the only place they leave to connect the switch to Dial tone.

Is this for CLEC work?

They do it here too...at least they tagged the numbers, but did not provide a true demarc.

Hi Jeff, Now THAT's more like what I see out here. Except it' s neater than most. :rolleyes: This is indeed limited to AT&T though..

Telepacific ALWAYS leaves a propely marked RJ21X

Comcast leaves 4 or 8 CKT. 110 punchdowns.

I would LOVE to have it all marked but when it isn't how do you shoot trouble if you can't get the BP?

That was the original question. Does anyone know when AT&T stoppped giving them out in Ca?

It's been atleast 5 years since I noticed that SOMETIMES they won't give it out. I've ran into situations where we go onsite to extend the lines to the suite, and find that there's no tag. We call telco to get the BP info and they won't give it out. What they do is turn on the service from the CO without even sending a tech out and we are somehow supposed to find the dial tone out of sometimes 1000's of posts.

Andy Cook, it sounds like the LEC always extends where you're from.