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Hi,

I have a Partner Plus carrier with several modules in it. The 206 v2.0 module died (probably dead power supply) and I pulled it out. The remainder of the system continues to work fine.

When I get a replacement 206 module, will I need to do any re-programming of the system to set up its ports, or is all programming stored in one of the other modules?

I'm hoping that when I get the replacement I can just plug it in and have the system back to normal without having to reprogram.

Thanks,

-S

The programming is in the Processor. Unless you purpously temporarily reprogrammed something all should remain the same when you put the new board in.

Unless the internal battery in the processor is bad.................then you will lose everything.

Why dont you get a higher release 206 like a 4.1
the r2 is older than dirt.

But Ken.................Avaya equip. last forever!

I agree with Mike about the potential risk of database loss. I don't know if it matters, but for some reason, the last time that I replaced a 206 module of a higher revision level in this system, I did it with the processor module pulled. It came back up, but I still consider it a miracle because a whole lot of other systems that I did this on didn't under the same circumstances.

If you can do a 1:1 revision replacement, that's the safest thing to do unless you know enough about the system to reprogram it.

Glad you finaly came around Ed!!!!!!!!!!

In the first post he says he removed the bad 206 and all works fine so that battery should be ok. If the programming does go I would plan on temporary programming and replacing the battery.

The revision of the expansion modules don't make much difference unless you are running a 3.1 or highter revision of a plus or II with a VM, then it would be a good idea to use 3.1's or newer. the features come from the processor.

Thanks all for your detailed replies. I decided to get an exact replacement (old 2.0 revision) to avoid any risk of complications when using with the old processor (I don't recall what version the proc. is.)

I'll follow-up post after I install to give everyone a data-point on this type of scenario.

One other question: does replacing the backup battery in the processor unit require re-programming the system, or does it have like a 30 second or couple-minute backup capacitor that will save programming during the short duration of a battery change? Where do I get a replacement battery for the processor?

Well guys, truth be known when it comes to expansion modules the later the release the newer it is and the more revisions to correct problems and add features it has had. You can only do yourself a favor by getting the latest release you can find. The release should make no difference operationally.

The 206 was the original Partner system (baby partner). R2 means that 206 is long over the hill and has been around the block several times. It was meant to be used all by itself or with another 206 or 206E. Since it can be used as an expansion, when the Partner Plus and Partner II processors came about many were used for that purpose. It was replaced by the 206E and later the 206EC.

You would have been much better off with a 206EC. The EC (Expansion- Caller ID) is the latest, I believe the last release was 4.1. All 206, 206E and 206EC mods have been discontinued and are only available used.

I'm sure whoever you bought that 206 from is probably having a Corona on you for taking it off his hands. :shhh:

If you lose your programming when changing mods it's because you shut it down and the memory backup battery is gone. If it doesn't come up, well, that can be a problem with old Partner systems. Sometimes the mods won't seat in the carrier, sometimes you just touch them and they die. I wouldn't blame it on the mod you used.


-Hal

One other question: does replacing the backup battery in the processor unit require re-programming the system, or does it have like a 30 second or couple-minute backup capacitor that will save programming during the short duration of a battery change? Where do I get a replacement battery for the processor?

Depends on the processor. If it's an ACS there are two AAA batteries right there in the front. Replace them with the POWER ON and you will have no problem.

If you have a Partner Plus or Partner II the NiCad battery is not user replaceable. It is soldered internally to the PC board and requires disassembly and component level repair. The recommendation is to replace, not repair.

If you are having loss of programming problems with one of these when the power goes down I would recommend that you take the opportunity to upgrade to an ACS which also has the ability to backup your programming to a removable PC card.

-Hal

Follow-up post-install report.

Just to give a data-point for future reference or those who come upon this thread later:

I got the replacement 206 R2.0 module, powered off the carrier, removed the dead 206, inserted the replacement unit, replaced the various line and extension modular plugs, powered up, and everything was dandy.

No programming appears to have been lost. Though, it's possible that that is because the system is running in factory-default mode already. There are 4 incoming COs and 5 extensions, with no VM or AA. I'm not familiar enough with Partner Plus / ACS to know what the default config looks like or whether the systems are usable "out of the box" without assigning CO ringing to extensions, etc. as you often must do with other systems.

Thanks for all your help & replies.

Thank you anacrhon for providing the follow-up. Many of us here offer advice, yet we never know if the information we gave actually helped. Knowing that you received useful advice helps us learn too. It's great that you are back up and running.

Hi anacrhon,

The Avaya Partner ACS is available with 2 default configurations. The R6 is a 3x8 (3 lines 8 extensions) while the R7 is a 5x9 (5 lines 9 extensions)

Hi, re: default configs, I didn't mean hardware-wise, I mean, when you power on and boot up a Partner Plus or ACS, and reset the programming to factory default, is the system ready to make and receive calls on ordinary telco POTS CO lines? I.e. if you just plug in 2 (or 4) CO lines, and a bunch of Lucent extensions (handsets), does the system work normally, or do you have to program in the CO lines specifically, i.e. to allow each ext. to access them, receive rings, etc.?