wE ALWAYS USED 888-902-9998 for ANI, but now is seems its asking for a user ID. Anyone know what gives here?
John

John:

There are threads all over the place on this subject and I am reluctant to start another one. Just use the search option and enter "ANI" and I think you will find plenty of numbers.

John, I believe most of those post have been edited or deleted due to a number of folks believing they don't belong in the open forum. Seems they were being requested by a lot of people who really didn't have a real need to know. It was also believed by some that the reason some are now password protected is due to misuse of the numbers. Having said all that, your profile says you are an installer. If you could elaborate on that maybe we can PM or email you the info.
Thanks,
Bill

It's been password protected because it's been given out to anybody who asks on the web for the past year at least. To all those who said it's OK to give these numbers out I TOLD YOU SO!

From now on we are going to keep these numbers close to our vests and only given out on a need to know basis.

-Hal

All this huffing and puffing about using someone else's number to detect. If you are dialing an 800, 888, 877, 866 or 855, SOMEONE, not you, is PAYING for those calls. Would you like to pay for calls of complete strangers who don't even say Thank You.

My goodness, you charge 70, 80, 90, 100 an hour or more and you need to steal a dollar's worth of toll free numbers? Good grief.

You can call your cell phone and not answer it but see the number. If you have no cell signal, you can call someone you know who has caller id at their home or on their cell phone.

A local number used by telco tecks is certainly not a big deal if you can find someone to give it to you.

How would you like to be the holder of an 800 number that someone figured out spelled 1-800-eat-shxx? How would you like to pay the bill or give up the number you've had and customers know.

Really now, are we not above walking off with 3 or 4 cents for detecting a number? Tomorrow is another day and you can start using your cellphone tomorrow.

Bunnie can I start using your cell phone number for my caller id issues ? You can call me back with the identified number ! Let me know , you are such a generous and giving person .Thank You Thank You . :bow:

these number can be found all over the internet. Not posting them here has no effect on keeping them out of the wrong persons hands.

John, search on google. You will find another number that works.

liquidvw, as you stated the number are all over the internet, this board has choosen not to be one of those sources. You will notice an offer to PM or email the info was offered, we are not refusing to help.

Bunnie: Time for a chill pill? No ones questioning you can call your cell, that was not the question.

You don't have to pay anything to call your cell, you don't answer, just look at the screen.

You could what we do, keep a $10 caller ID box in the car, and hook that to any known line and call it, using *82 if they have CID blocking.

I don't think I was screaming above. If we make as much as we are supposed to, do we have to steal a quarter's worth of someone's telcom money?

If you saw someone drop a quarter out of their pocket, would you keep it or would you tell them they dropped something?

When this was first posted I though it would be great, but thinking about it, who would steal a quarter? Who would bother to become a thief for a quarter? The whole thing is absurd.

Who has a right to be upset because the bill payer for an 800 line has spent money to put in codes so he doesn't get cheated out of 3 cents a call?

How many of you would pay a hooker with counterfit money you got for 20 cents on the dollar?

How many of you would be really really PO'd to find out you sold a whole bunch of expensive phones to someone for cash so you didn't have to show it on your books and then were told by the bank it was counterfit? Would you feel baaaad?

If you take some time to think about it, are we not all above this crap of stealing a few minutes here and there off an 800 number CUSTOMER? Its fun to get something for free but karma goes around and if you steal a quarter and someone steals a box of cable from you can't you understand it wasn't the best move you ever made?

If you you can be bought for a quarter, I'll pay it.

Bunnie
So does this mean I can use your cell phone number as my ANI source ? Let me know . Thanks !

Wheres that hooker that takes the counterfit

money again ? :banana: :banana: :banana:

you know to me these numbers should be readily available from every LEC and CLEC that you deal with just for the simple reason of all the BULLS@#! that we put up with from them. Like good to the DMARC and we go out and its dead then we have to charge the customer and feel bad about it because the big guys are to freaking lazy to change their screen on their terminal at the call center to dispatch a tech.

And one more thing i would almost be certain that if we all made a hundred calls to an ANI number that we wouldn't be costing the Big guys to much money if any at all since they own it and let their own techs use at will.

stepping down now

I agree. If you are a legitimate interconnect they should provide them.

-Hal

I don't mean to nitpick, but I do think it's also worth noting that what you see on a cell phone display is technically CPN/CLI and not ANI. I have run into mutliline hunt groups where the CLI is the same for every trunk, but the ANI was a completely different number. If you're trying to resolve a billing issue with an IXC, then ANI vs CPN does make a difference. This same problem can exist if you're trying to use your 'own' 8xx number as an ANAC. Some IXC's pass CPN instead of ANI.

Next time you’re at a large retail store and find that you’ve wasted a trip because their inadequate inventory control has left the item you’re wanting out of stock… STEAL SOMETHING CHEAP ON YOUR WAY OUT!

For those of you who think using a carriers 800# is stealing let me inform you. Having worked for a LD carrier for many years when you call their toll free it just spits it out, no billing. I wouldn't advocate stealing from anyone no matter the amount. I was holding off on this comment, I would think it would be apparent to most that the LEC's and long hauls are not going to bill themselves.

The cell phone issue has been discussed several times also. The only true ANAC is from the switch supplier.
Thanks,
Bill

Name me one publicly traded utility and/or telecommunications company that doesn’t finically account for services provided to itself and you’ll find one company that the SEC would have a field day with.

Yes, bean-counting mumbo-jumbo BUT… How do Telco’s fund their internal services departments that have real equipment and real tools and real technicians that want paychecks every other Friday?

Thanks,
Bryan

If you wish to think the Telco's are billing themselves it's your right to do so. It's like any other operating expense that they write off.

i take it that you work for a LEC or CLEC and sorry if i offended you as you, i will assume are a good tech. but if you haven't been in vendors shoes you might not understand why i posted that. we put up with alot of crap and spend alot of time on issues that are not are's but we have to prove to the LEC or CLECS before they will send a tech out.

as for you your post that was not a very good analogy or maybe it went over my head because it is not stealing especially when the carriers tech gives it to you. all i have ever had to do was ask and the tech gave it to me. if they didn't want anybody to know it the tech shouldn't give it out.

Since this topic has been brought up again and I have never posted on any of the previous ones another solution for those of us that do this for a living. Most all of us have an ILEC or CLEC that we work well with and on occasion I find myself in an area that will not allow one of the numbers that I use for identifying a line and the customer's carrier of choice has account codes. I will use a forced pic (1010XXX) to my L.D. carrier friends and ask them to identify. You can also alternate the last digit or digits to identify multiples of lines.

Seeing as this thread is no longer offering advise and is looking as if it is going down hill it is being closed.

Thank you to all who have posted an given insite on this matter.