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Posted By: Michael Havens split dsl - 09/10/11 09:07 AM
question: is it possible to split an ethernet line? I tried to do that yesterday but it wouldn't work.
Posted By: MooreTel Re: split dsl - 09/10/11 09:50 AM
Only proper way is with a switch.
Posted By: Michael Havens Re: split dsl - 09/10/11 10:56 AM
don't need proper- not for a customer. Beanies weren't working; lines seemed to be shorting.
Posted By: DND ON Re: split dsl - 09/10/11 11:28 AM
Beanies? That's what plumbers use when they do wiring, right?
Posted By: jeffmoss26 Re: split dsl - 09/10/11 12:36 PM
Don't need proper? Then why bother asking.
Posted By: Jim Bennett Re: split dsl - 09/10/11 12:59 PM
Confused I am. The title of the post says split DSL, but then the question is about ethernet.

As Dave said, the only way to "split" ethernet is with a switch.

As for DSL, you can connect exactly one DSL modem at the customer end.

Jim
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Posted By: Michael Havens Re: split dsl - 09/10/11 01:19 PM
Okay; so here is the situation:
I have a DSL modem, a satellite DVR, and want 2 additional ethernet outlets. So in all, I have installed 4 ethernet outlets. Now after I beanied all of the lines together none of them worked. Then I cut two of the outlets out of the setup and then it worked great. So does this mean you can only have two active outlets?
Posted By: dtcd21 Re: split dsl - 09/10/11 01:51 PM
uhhh, just buy a switch at walmart for 20 dollars?
Posted By: hbiss Re: split dsl - 09/10/11 04:02 PM
Reading through your posts (this one is just the latest icing on the cake) it's obvious your knowledge is less than zero.

Have you ever at least thought about doing some research in the internet, maybe reading some books about how things work just so you don't ask ridiculous questions?

-Hal
Posted By: dtcd21 Re: split dsl - 09/10/11 04:13 PM
haha i think hes trying to splice 4 data cables on the same circuit and think it's going to work..........
Posted By: MooreTel Re: split dsl - 09/10/11 06:24 PM
everyone thinks he/she can be a phone/date tech :bang:
Posted By: Clinton Re: split dsl - 09/10/11 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by Michael Havens:
don't need proper- not for a customer. Beanies weren't working; lines seemed to be shorting.
This isn't really a case of "proper" versus "non-standard". You simply cannot have a T with twisted pair Ethernet. Every device needs a dedicated cable between it and a device on the other end.

If you are coming out of a DSL modem that does not have a built in router, then you need to buy a router to sit between the DSL modem and every other device. If the DSL modem has a built in router that just doesn't have enough ports, then you need a small switch to provide more ports. One port on the DSL modem/router to the switch, and every other port can be used for networked devices.

Again, every device must plug into it's own port on the router. Sharing is physically impossible. If you splice, you are effectively tying the transmit pairs of two or more devices together, and connecting two outputs is generally a bad idea in any system.
Posted By: Michael Havens Re: split dsl - 09/11/11 12:05 AM
Thank you, Clinton, for the civil reply. That is what I was thinking but I just wanted verification.
Posted By: Michael Havens Re: split dsl - 09/11/11 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by hbiss:
Reading through your posts (this one is just the latest icing on the cake) it's obvious your knowledge is less than zero.
Not less than zero. I know just enough to be dangerous. And, no. I don't call myself a data tech and I know I'm not much of a phone tech..... but I can rub lines and fix simple problems. Li9ke I went to one house and the owner was complaining that when it rained the phone would go dead. The problem was that she had a live line touching the ground outside.
Posted By: jwooten Re: split dsl - 09/11/11 09:38 AM
It rains in Arizona or was it the sprinkler system!
:toothy:
Posted By: kenc Re: split dsl - 09/11/11 09:44 AM
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I know just enough to be dangerous. And, no. I don't call myself a data tech and I know I'm not much of a phone tech..... but I can rub lines and fix simple problems. Li9ke I went to one house
Dangerous is a understatement.. IMO you shouldn't be going to anybody's house (especially unsupervised) to service anything.
Posted By: skip555 Re: split dsl - 09/11/11 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by kenc:
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I know just enough to be dangerous. And, no. I don't call myself a data tech and I know I'm not much of a phone tech..... but I can rub lines and fix simple problems. Li9ke I went to one house
Dangerous is a understatement.. IMO you shouldn't be going to anybody's house (especially unsupervised) to service anything.
^^^^^yep , even if your doing it for free you have no business doing anything like this

to charge for it is just plain wrong
Posted By: festec Re: split dsl - 09/12/11 08:34 AM
question: is it possible to split an ethernet line? I tried to do that yesterday but it wouldn't work.

Because ethernet uses only 2 pairs and cat5 has 4 pairs it is entirely possible and more economical to run two computers on one cable. I see it done in univesities and lots of public schools... Usually techs that use jumper wire systems do this on Bix!
Apparently there is more than one way to skin a cat5 . I do it all the time ! aok
Posted By: Lightning horse Re: split dsl - 09/12/11 08:38 AM
A matter of semantics. (Right word ?) OP is asking about sharing an DSL signal, not sharing the actual wires.
Posted By: Arthur P. Bloom Re: split dsl - 09/12/11 08:50 AM
I tried to take out my own appendix once. But I didn't have the proper spoon. (I think that's what they called it.) There was a lot of blood, too. Is that normal?
Posted By: festec Re: split dsl - 09/12/11 08:50 AM
Split DSL with a pots spliter.
Posted By: Arthur P. Bloom Re: split dsl - 09/12/11 08:59 AM
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Split DSL with a pots spliter.
Wrong on so many levels.
Posted By: MooreTel Re: split dsl - 09/12/11 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by festec:
...Usually techs that use jumper wire systems do this on Bix!
Should read as: Usually "Wannabe"techs that use jumper wire systems do this on any connecting block or other apparatus available as they're too damn ignorant or cheap to buy /use the proper equipment!

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Originally posted by festec:
...I do it all the time ! aok
I don't, ever! In fact whenever I'm asked by some CG, IT, GC, or otherwise ignorant, el-cheapo SOB, I simply answer:"Bell won't don't it, no way and neither do I".
Posted By: jeffmoss26 Re: split dsl - 09/12/11 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by MooreTel:
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Originally posted by festec:
[b]...Usually techs that use jumper wire systems do this on Bix!
Should read as: Usually "Wannabe"techs that use jumper wire systems do this on any connecting block or other apparatus available as they're too damn ignorant or cheap to buy /use the proper equipment!

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Originally posted by festec:
...I do it all the time ! aok
I don't, ever! In fact whenever I'm asked by some CG, IT, GC, or otherwise ignorant, el-cheapo SOB, I simply answer:"Bell won't don't it, no way and neither do I". [/b]
Dave, we're never gonna win. People are always going to try and half-@ss something to get more profit. We can take pride in knowing we do it right!
Posted By: hbiss Re: split dsl - 09/12/11 01:01 PM
We can take pride in knowing we do it right!

As we stand on the unemployment line...

-Hal
Posted By: Arthur P. Bloom Re: split dsl - 09/12/11 02:48 PM
"Pay me now, or pay me later."
Posted By: festec Re: split dsl - 09/12/11 05:29 PM
Originally posted by Michael Havens:
question: is it possible to split an ethernet line? I tried to do that yesterday but it wouldn't work.

Someone Quoted festec :
...I do it all the time !
https://www.belden.com/pdfs/Catalogs/bixcross.pdf

One of my certifications is and another for fiber...ect
IBDN/CDT Certified For whats comming Next !

schematics (Right word)
Touche aok
Posted By: justbill Re: split dsl - 09/12/11 05:50 PM
festec I think you need to re-read what the OP was trying to do. Has nothing to do with the unused pairs.
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