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#251586 01/03/07 05:54 AM
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I have an older IBM Aptiva E56 computer that I use at home as a spare. It has an AMD Pentium processor in it and the CPU cooling fan is failing. I looked at the existing one and the IBM FRU number doesn't seem to come close to anything out there. I suppose that I could just take the old one out and take it to a computer repair place, but I was hoping that these are somewhat generic. It's has a 1 9/16" (22 mm) square hole pattern and appears to be 12 volt. Can anyone offer me some advice as to what can be done?

The part number is FRU 11501A00K6Q60A F01Z9Z. From what I can tell, all of IBM's FRU numbers are XXYXXXX, where X is a number and Y is a letter so I get the impression that the number I have is more than likely just a serial number.


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Ed, much has been written lately about CG and telco people. What I do know is processor fans and voltages are not created equal. That's why I have an old time CG on "retainer". One of my processor fans is attached with tie-wraps because it's so big!! Thought I'd throw a little humor out in the middle of the day!! laugh

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Hey Ed, if you PM me your address I'll send you a fan off one of my old machines. It's from a Dell system, but is 12 volt. It might fit as most of them I've seen have been pretty similar.


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PM quickly sent! Thanks very much, Steve. Is this forum great or what?


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Which Model? 2170-2173,2178,2198,2193-2197,2274.....etc
Might be a small sticker somewhere on the case.
Your FRU isn't coming up in the manuals
Might try FRU 19K3653

If all else fails happy searching https://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/product.do?doctypeind=8&template=%2Fproductselection%2Flandingpages%2FonlinePublicationsLandingPage.vm&sitestyle=lenovo
And if you haven't yet...I'd replace the CMOS battery CR2032.

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Happy New Year Ed! If you are unable to find the fan from IBM, try this.

Take the fan to Radio Shack or another store like them and buy a new one. Besides the size, most computer fans are generic. The fan are usually $5. If you pay someone, it will cost much more. A couple of cautions, one - the fan connectors are different sometimes (why you need to take the fan with you) and two - make sure you wear a wrist strap. Working with the processor/fan can be dangerous to the computer.


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Thanks for the suggestion, Crystal. I was going to head down that road but I like to use OEM whenever possible (don't know why with an 8 year-old computer)! Steve has been kind enough to send me a used one from one of his old machines. I am sure that if the mounting is different to the CPU socket, I can just install the fan he sends me to my original bracket. I already expected that there might be connector irregularity, so worst case, I will just clip the leads from the old fan and splice them to the replacement fan with a 709 connector. I will be sure to post back once I try the one that Steve sends me.

Bob: By the way, I looked again and found that the part number or so I thought (much more logical) is a 12J6886. This turns out to be the part number for the CPU itself, not the fan assembly. I do know that the computer itself is a 2137, model E56.

Like I said, I'll retrofit if necessary. Beggars can't be choosers. I can't thank you all enough for your advice.


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This past year, the CPU cooling fan in my Dell Dimension 8300 started to have problems. Every time we warm started the computer, we would see error messages.
There is a thermistor in the fan's circuit board which varies the rotational speed of the fan blades, depending on how warm the CPU is.
I was told that even if I could find a substitute fan, there was a risk of overheating the CPU and/or continuing to see that annoying error message during a warm start. mad

Dell sent a replacement fan free of charge. :thumb:


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Yeah Paul, but this is an 8 year-old IBM so I doubt any free replacements are in order. Believe it or not, I tried contacting IBM (or should I say ibm ) and the nice person in Pakistan had no clue what I was talking about, but she was very polite.
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It's definitely failing bearings in the motor in my case (I can hear the pieces rattling around when it runs at full speed every once in a while, like a BB in a garbage disposal). This one is definitely just a plain fan motor with a two-wire connection so at this point, I will take what I can get.

It's an old computer, but it's like my old dog; I can't imagine not having it (him). Sure, I could probably pick up a more advanced computer at a Goodwill store for less than the cost of a fan, but I like the one I have so I will keep it going as long as I can. I suppose it's a guy thing.


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Hey Ed, the fan I sent (which should have gone in yesterday's mail) is the type that screws directly into the heat sink, though I image it could be bracketed on there. If that doesn't work for you, I can see what else I've got here. We do have a few old machines we use for parts. Worst case you've lost a couple of days waiting for the part.


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