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#261541 08/14/08 05:29 PM
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What type of jack do you use for extending T1's? Is it rj48? And what is the benefit of using these as opposed to using rj45?


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The RJ (registered jack) is nothing more than what is wired to the pins. RJ45 is the pinout for a T1. Put whatever colors floats your boat as long as pins 1,2 and 4,5 have continuity on both ends, of course you do want full pairs. For my friend Ed, most folks who talk RJ48 really mean an 8p8c plug, which is not the same thing.


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When I see T1's or PRI's extended by telco, they use a certain jack that I thought had a diferent name than rj45 and therefore a certain purpose or function.


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I have been shown the error of my ways. I'm going to leave this to the experts. RJ is still just the pinouts but I may have screwed up the explanation.


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What you have seen is an RJ48X jack that contains shorting bars so that when the connected equipment is unplugged, the circuit will remain alive.

This is done by creating a loopback condition. When there is nothing plugged in, pins 1/2 are shorted to pins 4/5. This means that the receive side of the circuit is sent right back out on the transmit side.

There are no more RJ45 jacks. They have been obsolete for about twenty years.


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OK now listen to the expert. :bow:


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We extend t1's on regular cat5e (rj45?) jacks all the time, I'm thinking of telling my company that we should mandate using rj48x jacks for t1 extensions. But what is the benefit of having the circuit looped when the equipment is unplugged? Is it that telco won't get alarms?


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Pretty much so. I was told that some carriers will actually turn a circuit down if a looped condition falls off after a certain amount of time. I've never seen that happen.

By maintaining the proper jacks and wiring, a circuit can be extended without needing to have equipment connected at that time.


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Thanks for the info...


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It's also a good way for you to do an initial test. If you show the circuit down and you unplug and it syncs at the NID you know it's your problem.

I do apologize for my misinformation last night.


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