I hope pat does well for himself, Being in Oz I never had the chance to deal with him but respected his website! I still don't understand why that has gone with his departure!

I personally left NEC as part of the GFC exit! I do hope he doesn't regret the departure. My personal experience since leaving has been slightly meat marketish. People tend to want you for your ability to get them out of problems dealing with the NEC products and that can become wearying! The last month I have been Antique dealing restoring two networked SDSs to service and longing to be working on current product! All whilst also being expected to learn the Mitel product, which IMHO is too lightweight for the market it is playing in!

Enough of my opinions, Good luck to Mr "stuff" where ever he goes!