well, i have a diskjockey (disk to disk duplicator) and I tried that but it did not work because i believe there are bad sectors on the old drive. that xcopy32/PC stuff makes me a little hesitant, and i was ready to do it.

BUT I got it to work! I found some Y2k upgrade disks with a Y2k dongle, so thought I'd give those a shot.

I did the Y2k update (it never asked for the dongle) and rebooted and yes, now I have message waiting lamps! Weird but, I'll take it.

thanks guys. boo yah ka sha!