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#19861 08/09/08 02:20 AM
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"The Amp company has their own system of electron farms, where native, sub-molecular specialist workers meticulously tend to the crops.

"It is well known throughout the electrical industry that only organically-grown, hecho a mano electrons produce the finest data and voice transfer signals.

"Amp electrons, known the world over for their reliabilty and fidelity, are available only from our exclusive distributors in three grades: Extremely Good, Really Extremely Good, and Wow, Those are Really, Really Good.

"Accept no substitutes...always specify Amp electrons for your customers."


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Arthur, what computer magazine was that ad from?

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Hal, probably "Geeks R Us"...


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"Please note: Amp electrons are not compatible with BIX hardware."


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#19865 08/09/08 05:46 AM
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I'm waiting for the "Use Super-Conducting Cabling! It's cool!" ad's smile

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Thanks for all of the input, after talking to the owner now the computer tech said that the dsl which will be on one of the line will not work at that distance. Is there any information that i can show this guy? we will run cat6.
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Same scenario. DSL comes to you on CAT nothing and will work about 3 miles from the source.


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I would put a 450ft piece of cat3 cable in between the current dmark (the proper line of course) and the existing dsl modem. This would just be a 450ft coil added to the current mix. Ask the geek if he is getting dsl sync. When he says sure, it's fine show him the 450ft bridge clip. Then stick it.............................................................................

back in the truck.

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after talking to the owner now the computer tech said that the dsl which will be on one of the line will not work at that distance.

John, it seems to me like like you need to assert yourself and make it clear to the owner in no uncertain terms that YOU will handle the telecom issues on this job. You will not tolerate any interference from IT people. You don't tell them how to install their computers, they have no business telling you how to install your wiring.

I think if more of us in this business dragged the geeks out back and smacked them around when they step on our toes we wouldn't have half the problems we have with them.

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Not to mention that DSL doesn't even require the entire pair to function. It just uses one side of the pair to act as a "conduit" to ride along. That is the prime reason for distance limitations for DSL since induced AC interference is what kills it.

Don't believe me? Disconnect one side of a working line with DSL on it and see if it still works. I think that you will be surprised.


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