sundance-communications.com/forum Forums General General Telephone & Systems Information Can a 66 block go bad?

For no brainer and no tool type terminations I like the Amp series commoning blocks. example here.

In your testing... Had you pulled the ADSL signal off and not punched it back down to that jack? (Obvious but I have to ask ya know.)... Or if you DID punch it back down, did you not get it re-terminated properly when putting it back? (Did you creat a NEW problem, different from your noisy/bad jack.)


I know the other esteemed collegues here have mentioned it’s VERY rare for a 66-block to go bad... But I’m going to beg to differ since you’ve now mentioned you’ve been beating on that one with the OTHER DO-HICKY LOL… We’d call it a 110 blade just-so’s ya know.


Happy Birthday to you too Shawn and good luck.
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Yeah, using a 110 blade on a 66 block is no better than using a butter knife. You spread the clips so now they won't squeeze the wire properly. So now I would suggest changing the block because you damaged it.

-Hal

Spuds, I'm in Missouri.

CnGRacin, yep, that's what I think happened. Originally I pulled off one by one to find the offending line. ADSL line was pulled, but was not the offending line, so I kept going. Next one I pulled was the offending line, so I left it off (no time to fix at the time so planned to mess with that one later). Leaving the bad one disconnected, I went back and reconnected the ones previous that were ok... problem was I used the wrong do-hicky, aka "the 110 blade" to reconnect them. That's when I got all confused and things went downhill from there.

hbiss, I'm hoping there's a little life left in the 66 block. Maybe it will help that I'm using CAT 5 for POTS since it is thicker than CAT 3 (& therefore will be easier to grip between the clips that I mistakenly spread with the 110 blade). I guess a new 66 block wouldn't cost much, but I hope to make do with this if possible. I've used the proper tip to punch down the source and connect two jacks. So far, so good.

Also, I never knew about the bridging clips or their function (I never had any). If I had purchased & used those, this whole ordeal would've been so much easier to troubleshoot by simply pulling & replacing clips to test each line instead of pulling the connecting wire and punching back down. I'm going to grab some bridging clips this time and see if I can squeeze a bit more service out of this 66 block.

You all have been very helpful. Thanks a lot for being willing to help a guy who is out of his area of expertise.

CnGRacin, thanks for the birthday wish.

Shawn

hbiss, I'm hoping there's a little life left in the 66 block.
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Get a new one, they are inexpensive.

Just thought I'd let everyone know... I bought a bag of bridge clips, used a fresh pair from a CAT 5 piece, and rewired the old block using bridge clips this time. The offending jack that started everything in the first place is still grounding out--I'll check it someday in the future when all the boxes are moved out from that corner. All else works like a charm. Gosh, those bridge clips are great. If I'd have been using those in the first place, none of this other trouble would've happened. I wouldn't have needed the tool (and wouldn't have used the wrong tip) in the first place because I could've just pulled the clip off that bad circuit.

Anyway, thanks to everybody again for helping. And I know a new block would've been cheap. If I had been a professional doing work for a customer I'd have just put in a new one to be totally sure, but I figure why generate trash if this one would still work. It seems I didn't ruin the terminals even after using a 110 blade.

Thanks!

Shawn

Well Shawn, you are very expressive. I like that. I don't know what your strengths are, but you're welcome to come hang with us.

You can't imagine how laughable, yet how humbling it sounds to me to hear someone go on about bridge clips. It reminds me of how young I once was and how it is now that I have a responsibility to "hook up" the noob as someone once did me.

I like your attitude. There are far too many clowns that come into our forum who either post, "well that's what I first thought" (which is clearly bullshit, otherwise they wouldn't have posted) or the hubris of [what we call] a CG, or Computer Guy. The Computer Guy tends to be our arch enemy as he seems to know everything...just ask him!

Please stay a while. And even if you don't know much about voice stuff, we have many other forums where you might be able to provide help.

Welcome to the Sundance board.

like Tim said , Shawn

another thing you can try is to use the pins you didn't stretch out with the 110 blade

tell me about it, as a kid we always were treated to a visit from bell the day mom would strip wallpaper. Those old copper jacks corroded in no time. Bell got smart in the 90s, before getting out of the inside wire business they started installing aluminum jacks