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On a related question, does anybody know if Nortel ever made a TT Butt set?

When I was a young boy all I ever remember seeing the Manitoba Tel techs carry were the Green Rotary Dial Contempera ones.

As for the old black ones I have one an uncle gave me and it appears to be indestructible.

They never did. Went from the "Contempra" style to the Harris model.

Does anyone know if there are any of the black rubber "pencil dial" tel/test sets for sale?

A friend just bought one on ebay.


https://cgi.ebay.ca/VTG-Western-Ele..._DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f95e3690

"Upon further review"...

The cord you have seems to be the one that attaches to these test sockets, called 360A tools. The lugs on your example are of equal length, so they would be the ones that screw into the socket-type tools shown in the photo.

If the cord you had was intended to terminate in a 310-plug, the leads would be of unequal length.

So, my offer stands, but the plug would not attach properly. I would suggest that you call www.aines.com and see if they will sell you a cord with terminating in whatever test device you want/need.

Arthur, I think [very dangerous] that the "bed-of-nails" and similar large clips attach using the same tiny ring terminals that are on Joe's set.

What I am wondering about is the area on the leads just behind the ring terminals - there appears to be some tubing or something on them. It is visible in the 1 inch or so of the leads that are projecting past the two sliding anti-tangle collars.

Joe, can you post a close up of the ring terminals, with the sliding collars out of the way? [You are probably thinking we are insane for analyzing your cord in such detail. I won't try to deny that we are...]

Jim
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I'm pretty sure that the terminals for the standard-sized clips used in outside plant and station work use a much larger screw hole and hardware. Also, they are not rings, but spade lugs. The ones TTY Joe has are definitely for the eentsy screws that need the guide-pin screwdriver for insertion.

In addition, the length of the leads and the heat shrinks lead me to my belief about the 360 tools.

I just found an old test cord with a 360 tool at each end, so I'll send that instead of a 310 plug. Then Joe will need to find the little crocodile clips that fit into the 360 tools. I probably have a bunch at the bottom of the pile.

Arthur, what are the 360 "spring chucks"[1] used for? Whenever I have seen them in the past, I just assumed [also dangerous] that they were intended to push on to wire wrap terminals on frames. Your mention of croc clips has me thinking now that I was way off...

[1] That is the Aines name for them. Another incorrect assumption of mine was thinking they were located in Iowa. [That's Ames, Jim, not Aines. Duh.]

Jim
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There are three types: 360A, B and C. The letter suffix indicates the color, black, red, or white.

The chuck holds a tool that is needed for a specific task. The common ones are the KS-numbered crocodile (frame) clips, a couple of other clips that I can't remember right now, (I think they're numbered 345 or 346) and the 419A "roach clip"

roach clip

that is used to attach to the leads of components on a printed circuit board. You press the black button and a tiny set of jaws opens. Just the right size for an ... ahem ... hand-rolled cigarette.

There's also an adapter, a male-female thing. The male end goes into the 360, and the female end is an even smaller chuck that fits over a wire-wrap MDF terminal.

here\'s another

and another

frame clip


KS-6278 version