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#3117 08/30/04 12:49 PM
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If private site it does not matter.

For St. Louis area, try CT Innovations. They might be to large of a company to do at a resonable price.


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I need to revive this because I am supposed to go out to a building (private property) where a customer is moving in. They'll need phone system and cabling, but the building/lease co ( I don't know exactly who) is telling the customer that who ever does the work HAS to be union.

How does this work?! It's a fair size job and in this economy I can not jsut let it go.

This seems totally wrong on so many levels.
I've spent half an hour googling anything that remotely talks about a building owner who is sub-letting/leasing space MAKING the tenant hire some one specific for work other than meeting national/local code(s)

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I don't think something like that can be enforced. Is it even written someplace like in the lease? Most likely the building owner is concerned about pickets and disruptions due to a local union objecting to your being there. Then again he could be "on the take".

I would talk to your attorney.

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#3120 05/13/09 07:22 AM
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A number of the larger office buildings in NYC have (had?) this requirement. It was the building owner/management companies desire and as they owned the building, they could set the rules. Very often it IS in the lease, and yes, it's done to avoid disruptions. Very often the building engineers who had trouble with trunk slammers insisted on it.

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#3121 05/13/09 02:35 PM
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Corwyn, google CWA and pay them their $25 for a card and go do it....... :thumb:


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Ken,

I found the district CWA dstrict 1 and local
https://www.cwalocal1051.org/ but don't see any way to pay the bribe -err membership fee. What is it called just a membership card?

(I feel like I need to take a shower, I walked through a mindfield escaping Hungary cause they wanted me to have membership card. )

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Just run by the local and sign up for your membership as a CWA member and pay the .......err.....just pay, do your job, and consider it the price of doing business, kinda like pulling a permit.

Glad you made it from Hungary, we need more immigrants like you.


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I feel like I need to take a shower, I walked through a mindfield escaping Hungary cause they wanted me to have membership card

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Let's just try to help Corwyn solve his problem with this local area. Keep political opinions out of it.


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#3125 05/13/09 11:25 PM
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Corwyn,
Close shop means if you work on a job with other workers who are orgainized you have to join the union, as I stated that is rare anymore. Agency shop is the same thing only you pay the dues but don't have to join. Most states are right to work (for less) so you don't have to join or pay dues even though a union represents you.
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I realize this post is 5 years old but what does the "for less" in parenthesis mean?

#3126 05/14/09 01:54 AM
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John-

"Right to work" is one of those statements that elicits comments from both sides of the aisle.

The Taft-Hartley Act of 1947 prohibited the "Closed Shop" wherein an employer and a union could agree that you had to be a union member to work in a particular company.

One political leaning in this country began calling this the "right to work". (Giving the impression that without this you would have No right to work.)

The opposing political group counters this by calling this the "right to work for less" (implying that with this law in effect you earn less money).

Pick a side. It seems like everyone has these days.

Other examples of this type of rhetoric are: "No Child Left Behind" followed by "No Child Gets Ahead" and....But why bother, you get it.

Personally, I'm opposed to misleading statements no matter who makes them. It's like, why is every "People's Republic" in the world a Dictatorship? Call something what it is without the BS. Be honest.

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