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I need to know how you guys handle a situation like this: I've got a large installation with about 250 security drops (RG-59 Siamese) running a cable tray. Tray runs straight back to front with a 90-degree left-hand turn, about 25' over a finished ceiling with ducts and sprinklers above, then a 90-degree right-hand turn, another 20' over a similar finished ceiling, then waterfall down to the rack. Tray is in the steel, 23' AFF, ceiling is finished at about 8.5'. GC won't allow ceiling grid to be removed, nor will he allow scissor lifts in finished offices. So unless I can get somebody on an extension ladder at the hidden corner to "babysit" (this cable has a habit of jumping the corners of the tray in a good situation), how do I handle getting the cable in the tray? I'm afraid that if I try to pull through the corners (even taking a new zip line through with each 15 or so cables) it will turn into an ugly, unmanageable mess! Suggestions (please!!!!)?
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Well first off who are you working for the GC or the owner of the suite/office? Tell him you will be responsible for the tiles. It sounds a bit unreasonable to me.
Russ runs a local service and private tech center. [/url]
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Working for the owner, although GC has substantial control over the premises until turnover. Tray is installed according to everybody's plans, the root problem is that it's a poor design. Chances are I'm going to be stuck with it. There may be some remedy, but short of moving the tray, how would you access the hidden portions?
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Well in most cases the GC is working for the owner, I would go to him first and express you problem and see if they can't work something out for you to remove some tiles. Other then that you may want to tell him the cost may have to go up because you have to hire a few more people due to not being able to remove the tiles. Not seeing the job it's really hard to give much more advise.
Russ runs a local service and private tech center. [/url]
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Where I used to work we had a cable pulling system that used rollers on four sides of a square that you could hang temporarily hang at corners to alevitate the need for an extra guy at every corner. I can't remember the company that makes it but it seems like we got it from Graybar. It might be what you need.
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Yes, the "cable joe". we use them all the time. https://www.cablejoe.com/CJhome.html who installed the tray? Maybe you could sub the job to them. Also the Owner should realize he's going to go through this every time there's an add-on. You may need to wait until the building is turned over to the owner. That way he has complete say over it.
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Tell the owner that you need to get into the ceiling to complete the job. The GC is probably waiting on a ceiling inspection to get a CO. That is the problem with GCs. They are so worried about getting CO's, that they fail to realize a CO won't do the customer any good if the cabling is not in place.
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we too use cable joe's everywhere. if you don't want to buy want email me and perhaps we can work something out on renting it to you.
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