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if I have 400 cables laid out I would rather stick a probe in then go through each trying to read the numbers written in sharpie on each cable (is that a 5 or a 3 ? a 1 or a 7 ? )

off course Im not going to have 400 loose their going to be grouped .

I use the blank panels too , I like them becouse you can install one larger than you need and populate as needed also makes it easier to add /troubleshoot without having to disturb the panel.

I use the datalite to quickly Id cables 100 remotes two colred sending units makes it go quick .

https://www.tecratools.com/pages/datacom/37600.html

Skip-that's interesting. We just started using the blank panels from Hubbell because our installers said it was easier to terminate the individual inserts rather than work with the 110 connections on the back of a preconfigured patch panel.

You do have a point about reading the numbers on the cables. We actually spell the number to help with questionable markings; especially when some numbers get rubbed off a little bit during the installation process.

Maybe we need to look outside our small family owned box a little bit more?

I rarely bother with numbering the cables as they're being pulled. As others have said, I'm going to test each cable anyways, so I tone, test and label then.

What I have noticed with some people who do label the cables when they pull them, is they try to terminate them "in order" at the patch panel. You can either dress the cables out neatly, or you can fight with them to put them in order. Does it matter if two adjacent offices have cables run to two adjacent patch panel ports? Personally, I don't think so.

stoph

I use the jackrapid tool with leviton jacks lot quicker than trying to punch down to the patch panel

https://www.flukenetworks.com/jackrapid

couple that with the datalite and its quick and acurate .
(tip here the leviton jacks are a tight fit in the allentel blank patch panels but I find a 3/4 wood chisel on the top tab slides them right in place )

like clinton said Ive never had a customer complain that jack 6 is on one wall and 28 is on the other wall . as long as they are correctly marked neatly installed and work (becouse they where tested ) their happy

I see the Home Depot is now carrying the jackrapid tool. Telecom techs can't even get the tool advantage anymore over the end users!

If you use combs you can pull the cables out of the out of the 200 or so you have as they come and put that number through the respective hole in the right comb. And Not have to search through the cable ends for numbers.


Always label your Racks well nice big Label and have that rack number on the Outlet Face Plate.

I use BD for Building Distributor and then FD for Floor Distributor or FD-10 for Floor Distributor Level 10 etc.

Some Pepole go with Letters for Rack Numbers but most people here do whatever they felt like at the time to make me Mad.

As you can see, everyone has a method that works best for them. As long as your scheme makes sense, and you stick to it everywhere, and provide the customer with documentations, you can come up with a scheme that works best for you.

Here is a simple chart we use that helps our techs use the same scheme.

Keep in mind, you only need to use information that pertains to the current project. (For instance, if there is only 1 floor, don't use floor number.) Always add new digits "Right to Left".

"Blg.F-CL.R-PL-P"

P = Port (1-48)
Pl = Patch Panel (A-ZZ)
R = Rack (1-99)
CL = Closet (A-ZZ, According to site)
F = Floor (1-99, According to site)
BLG = Building (According to site)

Example 1: 3 story building with 2 closets on the 3rd floor with 2 racks and 14 patch panels. Cable is in 2nd closet on 3rd floor in rack 2 patch panel D port 28. = "3-B.2-D-28"

Eample 2: 1 story building, 1 closet, 1 rack, 1 patch panel port 28. = "A-28"


When cabling a new location, Print a Patch Panel chart that represents the total number of cables you are installing with the representing patch panel numbers. (ie. cables 1-48 = A-1 to A-48, cables 49-96 = B1 to B-48, and so on.)

Now, start at the receptionist desk or a central location with cable #1. From here work in a clockwise motion all the way around the building numbering the rest of the locations. The first outlet on the left when entering an office will always be the next number. Work that office in a clockwise motion, then move on. You should end up back close to the receptionist desk with the last cable.

Now you can sharpie all the cables with the exact location it will be as you install them. This will enable you to predict the correct slack amount to dress them in the racks as lengths change as you move down or over as you terminate. It makes for a much cleaner installation, No combs needed.

But the biggest advantage of this method is Testing or Certification. If this method was used, your daughter would only have to walk in a complete circle around the building using the clockwise motion to each jack, and you would only have to move the tester over to the next port. Everthing is in order, easy to determine and no searching and walking 100 miles to test.

But this is just our way. As I mentioned above take what you see here that makes sense and apply it to your own scheme.

"Always provide an AS-Built"

Kirk, are you bored this morning. That is quite a novel you posted. :rofl:

Just tring to be helpfull. And yes, I'm used to be working on Monday's. :bang:

you should label it smart.for example:
what idf is it?1,2,3? lets say 2 so it would be idf#2-
and what panal is it going to? lets say 4th one.
idf#2-4-
and what port is it going to? lets say 36. then you have
idf#2-4-36.

not so hard to do.
Jamey