sundance-communications.com/forum Forums Wiring - Telecom Carriers - Trunks & Services Cabling Telephones Systems Wiring Krone?

Is anyone using Krone consistently? Qwest seems to be moving to that here. I looked at some of their stuff at a show, it looks pretty slick. Test access without removing pairs was pretty nice, as well as the mix and match blocks in a holder. Price wasn't too bad. Their impact tool is a bit different but it made sense.

Krone has been trying to market their products here in the East for 15 years, but they have not taken off at all. Verizon (Bell Atlantic or GTE) haven't adapted to it here, though I have seen them experiment with it at several sites about five years ago.

Krone is very popular in Europe but here in the U.S., it's more of a "do we need another block type" situation. Obviously, the Bell companies are trying to come up with any block type that will save them money on technician time. My argument is that if the tech has to switch punch tools three times on a typical site, are they really saving money?

There is already enough difficulty with 66/110 sites, then we have the BIX situation. Do we truly need yet another type of block? Nope. Around here, about 99% of installations, new or 45 years old, are done with 66 hardware. Seems like people are spending way too much time trying to improve something that works just fine.

Verizon New England seems to be using Krones for new commercial installs, but will use existing 66's for line adds.

66's and 110's are the my terminations of choice. :thumb:

The company that I worked for in Edmonton did a large campus in Krone. At that time all the mounting frames were made of steel. By the end for the first days of termination your hands arms were all cut and bleeding. They may have changed by now that was quite awhile ago.

I'm with dexman,

Kinda like the sissors thing. LOL

Verizon has been using Krone in the form of a RJ-21x NI in this area since they were Nynex. We actually keep some on hand so we can clean up the older "messes" that Verizon won't deal with. I like the ability to use a test plug to split the block and connect a butt set to see which side the trouble is on.

Other than that application I really can't see the difference between it and BIX or 110. Matter of fact the new Krone can be terminated with a 110 blade also.

-Hal

Krone ---- why ? :shrug:

KLD

Krone ? Bix ? it's 110 or 66 around here.
I think I have seen one kone site.

KRONE or as it is now. ADC/KRONE is the defacto standard in Europe. It has some advantages due to it's unique 45 degree contact. Unlike the BIX, it can be used externally without petroleum jelly. And unlike the 110 and BIX you can use a wide range of cable gauges from as small at 28AWG to 20 AWG. You can insert two cables in one IDC (BT engineers will say you can insert four cables in on IDC!), the 237A allows you to disconnect or test inline.

The 237A also has the option of five point lightening protection modules that are inserted inline.

British Telecom standardized on it in the late 1970's because they had so a wide range of cable types out there, including aluminium cable! Side note: The module was made in Germany and a condition of the contract was that KRONE had to make it in the UK. Lucky for me......

The backmount frames are made from 18/12 stainless steel and should come with edge protectors to stop you from slashing yourself. You can get an "ourigger" which allows you to dress the cable and punch it down away from the frame.

Of course, I spend 10 years working for them, they paid for my colleage. So I am biased.

Krone is the standard termination method in Australia all Copper Carrier network Building Entry points are Krone.

Krone is very good from a jumpering point of view and for traditional telephony applications.

I am a big Systimax Fan especially 110 Visi Patch but most people here don’t like 110 because they don’t understand it. Or more to the point they don’t have an adaptor for their test phone.

People just don’t like what they don’t understand doesn’t mean it’s a bad product.

My advice is don’t poo poo it until you’ve had a go yourself..